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« on: June 28, 2007, 07:06:00 pm »

Hello All,

I inherited a bunch of stuff and with this stuff was a binder of bank notes.
I'm not a collector or do I know anything about this stuff.
When we came across the binder the 1st thing out of my wifes mouth was let's spend it. 

But before I let her run out and spend the cash I thought I would post what we have and make sure that it wasn't worth more then face value.

Plus maybe  I could help out a collector or two.

As for condition most look good to me but who I'm I.
Give me a price based on a fair condition just need a general idea.



Here is a list of what we have.

If it's missing anything or you would like more info let me know.

I know this is a large list to expect someone to help with but if you have an idea please post. even if you just one 1.

1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 CA4665740  Osborne - towers
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TL5818189 Gordon - Towers
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TL5818190 Gordon - Towers
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TN4362323 Coyne- Towers
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *CF0938551 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 CI6668076 Lawson/Bouey
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 HF1249078 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 YP5375238 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 SF2910831 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 UF0818168 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 BA7435066 Coyne- Towers
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 TA2755312 Beattie-Coyne
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 FN5900623 Beattie-Coyne
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *AA0080591 Beattie-Coyne
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 EF0354168 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *BM0177841 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 UF0296443 Beattie and Rasminsky
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 1867 1967 Beattie and Rasminsky
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 NO5315594 Beattie and Rasminsky
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 *BM1325499 Beattie and Rasminsky
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 SO2787792 Beattie and Rasminsky
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 1867 1967 Beattie and Rasminsky
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW2902836 Crow - Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672367 Crow - Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672368 Crow - Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672369 Crow - Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672370 Crow - Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 *MR6516406 Lawson/Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 MD9404564 Lawson/Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 *MC6446479 Lawson/Bouey
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW2902837 Crow - Bouey

1954 Bank of Canada $2.00 UB9747223 Beattie-Coyne
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 RN0030700 Lawson/Bouey
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 *RE6824557 Lawson/Bouey
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 RH8317104 Lawson/Bouey
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 *RW5375630 Lawson/Bouey
1986 Bank of Canada $2.00 BBK7650197  Thiessen-Crow
1986 Bank of Canada $2.00 BBK7650198 Thiessen-Crow

1937 Bank of Canada $5.00 WC0849178 Gordon - Towers
1954 Bank of Canada $5.00 LX7627949 Beattie and Rasminsky
1972 Bank of Canada $5.00 *SP2221802 Lawson/Bouey
1979 Bank of Canada $5.00 30000638963 Lawson/Bouey
1979 Bank of Canada $5.00 30572153317 Crow - Bouey

1954 Bank of Canada $10.00 HV7192847 Beattie and Rasminsky
1974Bank of Canada $10.00 EDA0909090 Lawson/Bouey
1989 Bank of Canada $10.00 ADA0404136 Thiessen-Crow

1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 GW7256534 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 EW2129395 Beattie and Rasminsky
1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 AW0146147 Beattie and Rasminsky
1969 Bank of Canada $20.00 EC7559032 Beattie and Rasminsky
1969 Bank of Canada $20.00 WS9600060 Lawson/Bouey


I also have this unopened Canadian Centennial Uncirculated Bank Note 1867-1967 (Unopened Brown Envelope) 13x100 written with pen and a white round sticker with 56 138X written on it. 

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 08:18:38 pm »

Here is a run down of what you have; Please remember that I went through your list vary quickly. I have indicated the 2007 Clarlton’s catalogue  low (very good) to high (uncalculated) price on your items. The condition of the notes play a large role as to their value. The Items in bold stood out.

1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 CA4665740  Osborne – towers; 12-300
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TL5818189 Gordon – Towers; 8-70
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TL5818190 Gordon – Towers; 8-70
1937 Bank of Canada $1.00 TN4362323 Coyne- Towers; 8-70
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *CF0938551 Beattie and Rasminsky; 3.50-75
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 CI6668076 Lawson/Bouey; 1.25-11
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 HF1249078 Beattie and Rasminsky; 3-20
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 YP5375238 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-9
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 SF2910831 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-9
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 UF0818168 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-9
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 BA7435066 Coyne- Towers; 12-145
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 TA2755312 Beattie-Coyne; 3-20
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 FN5900623 Beattie-Coyne; 3-20
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *AA0080591 Beattie-Coyne; 8-140
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 EF0354168 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-9
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 *BM0177841 Beattie and Rasminsky; 2.50-16
1954 Bank of Canada $1.00 UF0296443 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-9
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 1867 1967 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.50-4
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 NO5315594 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.50-8
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 *BM1325499 Beattie and Rasminsky; 3-35
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 SO2787792 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.25-14
1967 Bank of Canada $1.00 1867 1967 Beattie and Rasminsky; 1.50-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW2902836 Crow – Bouey; 1-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672367 Crow - Bouey; 1-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672368 Crow - Bouey; 1-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672369 Crow - Bouey; 1-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW6672370 Crow - Bouey; 1-4
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 *MR6516406 Lawson/Bouey; 3-75
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 MD9404564 Lawson/Bouey; 1-5
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 *MC6446479 Lawson/Bouey; 2.50-60
1973 Bank of Canada $1.00 EAW2902837 Crow – Bouey; 1-4

1954 Bank of Canada $2.00 UB9747223 Beattie-Coyne; 4-45
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 RN0030700 Lawson/Bouey; 2-18
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 *RE6824557 Lawson/Bouey; 3-80
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 RH8317104 Lawson/Bouey; 2-18
1974 Bank of Canada $2.00 *RW5375630 Lawson/Bouey; 3-85
1986 Bank of Canada $2.00 BBK7650197  Thiessen-Crow; 2-14
1986 Bank of Canada $2.00 BBK7650198 Thiessen-Crow; 2-14

1937 Bank of Canada $5.00 WC0849178 Gordon – Towers; 18-240
1954 Bank of Canada $5.00 LX7627949 Beattie and Rasminsky; 6.50-35
1972 Bank of Canada $5.00 *SP2221802 Lawson/Bouey; 8-200
1979 Bank of Canada $5.00 30000638963 Lawson/Bouey; 5-35
1979 Bank of Canada $5.00 30572153317 Crow – Bouey; 5-55

1954 Bank of Canada $10.00 HV7192847 Beattie and Rasminsky; 12-55
1974Bank of Canada $10.00 EDA0909090 Lawson/Bouey; 10-40
1989 Bank of Canada $10.00 ADA0404136 Thiessen-Crow; 10-35

1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 GW7256534 Beattie and Rasminsky; 22-100
1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 EW2129395 Beattie and Rasminsky; 22-85
1954 Bank of Canada $20.00 AW0146147 Beattie and Rasminsky; 22-85
1969 Bank of Canada $20.00 EC7559032 Beattie and Rasminsky; 20-130
1969 Bank of Canada $20.00 WS9600060 Lawson/Bouey; 20-95


Cheers
Jared

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 08:30:00 pm »

Hello,

Thank you very much Jared. It was a big help.
What I'm going to over teh weekend is post some scans of the notes and get some help with the condition.

Aging thanks for the help
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 08:34:10 pm »

Tyson, I pulled off the CPMS site, it will help you in grading the notes

http://www.nunetcan.net/cpms.htm


Grading Paper Money
When grading paper money it is essential to first determine if the note may be safely removed from its holder without causing any damage due to brittleness, unseen tears, glue remnants etc. Then, carefully remove the note and holding it lightly, consider the general appearance, amount of wear, the hue and intensity of the colour of both the face and back. Determine a preliminary grade. If the note is Fine or better it should be held obliquely in line with a good light source. Move it around at various angles, such that the light will reflect off the note highlighting any ripples, counting creases, heavy creases, pressed out creases, tears, pinholes cancellations, repairs or fading. Mastery of this technique is mandatory in successfully grading paper money. When these aspects have been carefully considered, decide if these are "normal" for the preliminary grade which was determined. If not, hen the grade may have to be reduced depending on the number and severity of the defects, or the defects will have to be listed in addition to the overall grade, followed by any unusual defect, than to downgrade the note. Careful inspection to determine the correct grade will lead to greater trust and confidence between buyers and sellers of notes.

UNCIRCULATED - UNC: A perfect note. Crisp and clean as issued and without any folds, creases, blemishes or discolouration. Colours have original hue and brightness. Some issues may have ripples [as made]. Mention must be made if the design is not perfectly centered with usual width of margins.


ABOUT UNCIRCULATED - AU: Similar to Uncirculated but with the allowance of a light fold [usually a vertical center fold] or two or three very light counting folds, but not both. Counting creases resulting in broken paper fibres, or any other creases, reduce the grade depending on their number and severity. The practice of using "almost" and "about" to designate a slightly lower or a plus in the case of lower grades to designate in-between grades is common, e.g. "almost AU" or "EF plus". Notes not perfectly centered with width of margins must be so described.


EXTREMELY FINE - EF: Similar to Almost Uncirculated but the centre fold, vertical or horizontal, may be a crease, i.e. paper fibres are broken, or there may be up to three heavy counting folds [not creases] or two light creases, but no combination of the above. The centering and margins if not perfect must be noted.


VERY FINE - VF: A fairly crisp and clean note. It may have several major and minor creases and folds, and some evidence of wear especially along the edges or at the corners. There may be some slight decrease in hue and intensity of the colours. The design in the creases should not be worn off.


FINE - F: A note with considerable evidence of circulation. Numerous creases and folds, but a small degree of firmness remaining. Usually fairy soiled and the hue and intensity of the colour are slightly reduced. There may be a slight amount of the design worn off along the major creases. Creases should not be worn off.


VERY GOOD - VG: A heavily circulated note but with all the major design still visible. Usually limp with no crispness or firmness, quite soiled, hue and intensity of the colour will be faded or altered. A moderate amount of the design may be worn off along the major creases or in the "counting creases" areas. Numerous other defects may apply [see list below]


GOOD - G: Soft and very limp, often with tears and small pieces missing. Usually some of the major design is worn off. Note may be quite dark in appearance. Manuscript signatures, dates and sheet numbers may be worn off or entirely faded out. Often has numerous tears and other defects.


FAIR - F: Similar to GOOD, but larger pieces missing. Manuscript signatures, dates and sheet numbers may be worn off or entirely faded out. Often has numerous tears and other defects.


POOR - P: As a fair note, but with a major portion of the note torn off or the design obliterated. Often numerous tape repairs. Generally collectable only because of rarity.


In addition, to accurately grade a note it is necessary to consider any additional impairments. These should include:

1. Minor counting creases or edge defects, especially for EF and AU grades.
2. Tears, pinholes or signature perforations.
3. Stains, smudges, crayon marks or writing.
4. Missing corners, cut and punch cancellations or edge defects.
5. Rubber stamp impressions.
6. Any repairs, such as with sticky tape, scotch tape, stamp hinge, etc.
7. Chemical damage, paste or glue from attachment to a page.
8. Poorly centered or badly trimmed edges.

A note with portions missing should be graded as if it were a whole note, then the amount missing should be fully described.

Proof, specimen and essay notes are commonly accepted as being in uncirculated condition, otherwise, they should be described as impaired with the type and degree of impairment stated.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 08:45:13 pm »

Hello,

Thanks for the grading help.
I'll take a good look at the notes this weekend and post what I think they may be.
Any grading photos to go by. Do you know where I can see examples of the grades online?

I have collected may other paper items so I have a good idea of grades.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 08:52:35 pm »

I can't think of a site that show's actural notes for grading. You could try ebay and see what is listed under paper money to get a feel of how notes are graded, but don't trust ebay 100%, sometimes the notes a worse then the stated grade.

http://www.cdnpapermoney.com
is a great site for information and resources on the subject.


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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 09:14:04 pm »

I also have this unopened Canadian Centennial Uncirculated Bank Note 1867-1967 (Unopened Brown Envelope) 13x100 written with pen and a white round sticker with 56 138X written on it.

Does it say 1867-1967 as a serial number or have an actual serial number?
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 09:53:05 pm »

Hey,

The only numbers are the 1867 - 1967 on the brown Envelope/ Keep in mind this Envelope is not open it is still sealed. The Envelopeis no bigger then a a note.

I was thinking that it would be worth more unopened then opened.

Should i just open it?

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 10:21:07 pm »

In my personal option, I would open the envelop to see what inside, you knver know what you will find and you won’t hurt anything, just be careful opening it if you use a knife. If you have a bunch of 1867 – 1967 notes, they are worth 1-4/each

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 10:23:17 pm »

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In my personal opinion, I would open the envelope to see what inside, you never know what you will find

Yeah, probably an Unc Ozzie.  The person just labelled the envelope incorrectly ;D




Always looking for #1 serial number notes in any denomination/any series
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 11:13:29 pm »

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 11:39:03 pm »

I have never seen an envelope like that, just from the label seems to be just only 1867-1967 centennial notes, so they should be in UNC condition. How much do you want for the envelope?

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 11:48:22 pm »

I'm not sure what it would be worth to me.

What do you think is in the envelope?

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2007, 11:57:45 pm »

I have no clue what woukld be inside, or what it would be worth, but I can pick up a brown envelope at any staples store for about 50 cents and run it through a laser printer producing the same result.

Maybe wait a few days and see what the older members say about it.

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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 03:05:28 am »

The only numbers are the 1867 - 1967 on the brown Envelope/ Keep in mind this Envelope is not open it is still sealed. The Envelopeis no bigger then a a note.

I was thinking that it would be worth more unopened then opened.

Should i just open it?

If the envelope is not on thick paper, try holding it up to a bright light and see if there's a serial number or just 1867-1967 as the S/N.

If it's a serial number, I might be interested in acquiring it.
 

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