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Title: Penny
Post by: SaintMichael999 on March 29, 2012, 05:17:49 pm
http://money.ca.msn.com/federalbudget/mint-will-stop-making-pennies-this-fall

So are collectors going to miss the penny?  I will miss going through rolls of pennies because you can always find an old interesting one.  I won't miss dealing with them at work!
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: tunakahuna on March 29, 2012, 05:33:10 pm
Won't miss them a bit!
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Post by: Seth on March 29, 2012, 06:43:42 pm
Good, it's about time. Our whole coinage system could use an overhaul, after 75 years of the same designs and sizes on most of our coins.
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Post by: mmars on March 29, 2012, 08:01:05 pm
All those billions of pennies in circulation will now become rare collector items!  :-\
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Post by: CA_Banknotes on March 29, 2012, 08:05:05 pm
Good riddance. I found a number of smaller business rounding up to the nearest nickel when giving change anyways.
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Post by: OldCoinGuy on March 29, 2012, 09:58:23 pm
There was a considerable lobby from coin collectors to continue to continue to include the cent in the mint sets.  Markup on those sets would more than cover the 1.6 cent cost of the penny.  I wonder if that would be a Canadian Mint decision only.   The new government edict certainly spells the end of the circulating penny but the collector penny.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: CA_Banknotes on March 29, 2012, 10:20:49 pm
There was a considerable lobby from coin collectors to continue to continue to include the cent in the mint sets.  Markup on those sets would more than cover the 1.6 cent cost of the penny.  I wonder if that would be a Canadian Mint decision only.   The new government edict certainly spells the end of the circulating penny but the collector penny.
That wouldn't be a bad idea. When the Euro was launched, I remember Finland was the country that didn't circulate 1 or 2 cent coins, choosing to round to the nearest 5 cents while other nations had all denominations of coins. They did release 1 and 2 cent coins for collectors and continue to do so today, and same for other nations that have since adopted rounding. In the case of the Euro though, it's probably to keep some level of consistency considering there are many nations that circulate the entire set of coins, and of course it's purely for collecting purposes in those countries.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: venga50 on March 30, 2012, 12:36:54 am
All those billions of pennies in circulation will now become rare collector items!  :-\

Yes, I'm sure eBay will soon be deluged with a flood of "rare" penny auctions...where the postage will cost upwards of 60 times the value of the package contents.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Seth on March 30, 2012, 03:20:32 am
The 50 cent coin is still produced for the collector market in sets and even in rolls (at a premium over face), despite it not being distributed through normal circulation channels anymore. I see no reason why they cannot do the same thing with the penny, and I'm fairly certain that they will.
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Post by: uscanuck1ca on April 06, 2012, 03:34:01 pm
The 50 cent coin is still produced for the collector market in sets and even in rolls (at a premium over face), despite it not being distributed through normal circulation channels anymore. I see no reason why they cannot do the same thing with the penny, and I'm fairly certain that they will.

The difference between the penny and the fifty cent though is that the fifty cent doesn't get pulled from circulation (not that they get circulated that much) whereas the penny will be pulled and returned to the mint to be recycled.  I think because the penny would no longer be a circulating coin, that the RCM wouldn't continue to produce it for its regular annual sets.
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Post by: JB-2007 on April 06, 2012, 04:52:46 pm
I don't think the RCM will mint anymore pennies at all. Not even for collector sets.
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Post by: Seth on April 07, 2012, 03:09:39 am
Finland and the Netherlands stopped producing €0.01 and €0.02 coins for circulation years ago, but they still do produce them for collectors' sets (http://www.eliastamps.com/publish.php?op=yes&id=2516). I'm betting on the RCM doing the same with the cent.
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Post by: Rusty on April 07, 2012, 12:31:13 pm
I agree ... in fact the collector market was given consideration in the 2010 Report from the Standing Senate Committee on abolishing the cent.

You can read about it here:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/SEN/Committee/403/fina/rep/rep08dec10-e.pdf (http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/SEN/Committee/403/fina/rep/rep08dec10-e.pdf)
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: FogDevil on November 02, 2012, 01:06:52 pm
It's about time the Mint has spoken!  After all those years of accumulating pennies, the end is finally nearing!

Hasta la Vista, Sayanara, and good riddance to the penny!  It will be one less annoying coin to see in my change!  Whatever pennies I have I am going to donate to charity in the coming months.

I can't wait for February 4, 2013.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: FogDevil on February 01, 2013, 01:19:13 pm
Well, folks, the day has come.  Some bank branches have received an order of pennies for the last time today.  There are some banks open on Saturdays in Canada, and those particular branches will distribute the penny for one more day after today.  Cashiers will continue giving out pennies in change for 2 more days after today.  Come Monday, we kiss the penny goodbye and won't miss them one bit.

It's sad, however, that the penny will be withdrawn on Monday, and I still had yet to see a 2012 minted penny in my change.  I guess I will never be receiving one, but it comes as no surprise.

But the good overrides the bad.  I will certainly not miss the penny one bit!  Makes me wonder if the number of nickels in circulation will rise starting on Monday?
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Dean on February 01, 2013, 08:18:13 pm
I received a reply from the RCM regarding the penny's future as NCLT.  Read it here:

http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/forum/index.php?topic=12871.0

Who knows what they will decide to do...
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: stashthecash on February 01, 2013, 08:49:37 pm
another way for the mint to screw people out of their money .....
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Rupiah on February 01, 2013, 11:58:45 pm

Who knows what they will decide to do...

Pennies are certainly not part of the 2013 sets. Take a look

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/uncirculated-set-2013-prod1620013#.UQyc_x2_DTo
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Dean on February 05, 2013, 10:36:35 pm
Pennies are certainly not part of the 2013 sets. Take a look

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/uncirculated-set-2013-prod1620013#.UQyc_x2_DTo

NOOO!!     >:(     Maybe the RCM changed their mind since I spoke to them.  I find it odd that they continue minting extremely limited runs of circulation strike 50 cent coins but will not do so with the penny...
 
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Rupiah on February 05, 2013, 11:27:50 pm
NOOO!!     >:(     Maybe the RCM changed their mind since I spoke to them.  I find it odd that they continue minting extremely limited runs of circulation strike 50 cent coins but will not do so with the penny...
 


It is possible to buy 50 of the last million pennies for $10+shipping +GST in a nicely gift wrapped package. Quantities limited to 20,000 rolls of 50. Now only if they numbered the pennies I would by the last one and only if they had serial numbers I would buy the one that said 999999 but then who knows 1000000 would be a better investment ;)
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: tmort on February 06, 2013, 09:22:09 am
I picked up a roll of these last 20000 rolls. The shipping is steep though....$10 for the roll and $8 for shipping.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: rarecoins2001 on February 06, 2013, 10:46:49 am
It is actually a lie since at least the last 2 pennies were donated to the Currency Museum and the ANA.  So they are advertising the last 1000000 pennies made.
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Shylo on February 06, 2013, 11:32:25 am
$10 for a roll!!!!    ???

Who would've thunk the gov't looks for a cash grab opportunity!?
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Post by: CA_Banknotes on March 03, 2013, 08:14:05 pm
If you noticed on *that* site, the last roll with serial number 20,000/20,000 is fetching, wait for it...

$3,350!  ???



Title: Re: Penny
Post by: 1971HemiCuda on March 03, 2013, 10:40:21 pm
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If you noticed on *that* site, the last roll with serial number 20,000/20,000 is fetching, wait for it...

$3,350!
That roll ended up selling for $6,600!  ???
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: venga50 on March 03, 2013, 10:52:48 pm
That roll ended up selling for $6,600!  ???

Good Lord! For a roll of 50 pennies? You can buy a quite decent 1935 $25 note for that kind of scratch!
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Rupiah on March 04, 2013, 12:11:13 am
Good Lord! For a roll of 50 pennies? You can buy a quite decent 1935 $25 note for that kind of scratch!

Then again the person who bought it probably already has a  low serial  number 1935 $25 note with a similar serial numbered $500 note (both French version)  :o.

I have often wondered where I would draw the line. Would I pay a ridiculous price for a torn $25 1935 note or would I be satisfied with a decent digital image of a UNC one that I can admire whenever I want and at higher levels of magnification ;).

Would I pay a 30% premium for a graded note held up in plastic or pay lesser for one of similar quality that I can touch and feel. Again if all that I care about is appearance can I not just be as happy with a high quality digital image :)

I am sure everyone thinks differently which makes collecting fun and sometimes results in decent financial gain. Thank goodness for e-bay, the dealer community and other markets for making all this possible.

Title: Re: Penny
Post by: Squad-G on March 04, 2013, 09:28:33 am
For 6600$ I would take a regular penny roll and ask someone to fake the wrap... would cost me less lol !
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: coinsplus on March 04, 2013, 11:21:46 am
This got more attention as it made it to CTV News in Toronto a few days before the end of the auction.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/a-pretty-penny-toronto-man-s-auction-of-last-roll-of-canadian-pennies-could-net-him-thousands-1.1177984
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: tmort on March 04, 2013, 09:34:18 pm
Cool article. Thanks for posting. I still haven't received my roll.....which makes me wonder how the last roll got received well before mine even shipped....
Title: Re: Penny
Post by: coinsplus on March 05, 2013, 11:18:47 am
Here is the follow-up article after the penny roll got sold.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/last-roll-of-canadian-pennies-nets-6-600-at-auction-1.1180288