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« on: December 09, 2004, 11:38:50 pm »

I remember back in the early 1990's, after the BBP's were issued, I remember seeing some serial numbers on $2 notes with a large B on one side of the prefix and a small B on the other side.  These prefixes were in the BG* series.  Some examples of these include BGJ through BGR, maybe a little higher.  I remember having BGJ, BGM, BGP, maybe BGR with the big B on one side.  A strong majority of those prefixes had a small B on both sides.

If anybody has any prefixes in the BG*'s with a small B and a large B on each side, or a large B on both sides of the serial number, please post any new finds on this topic.   :)

Happy Hunting!  :)

Jonathan  ;)
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 12:40:47 am »

What two sides are there on a prefix such as BGM?

To the best of my knowledge, there is no "Large B/Small B" varieties on the BGx series.  If you have examples of what you're trying to refer to, please post a scan so that everyone else can have some clue as to what you're talking about.

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2005, 10:13:25 pm »

Hi collectors,

I would like to discuss about a thinks on some prefix $2 1986 I found.  When the prefix BBA to BBP was printed they got large B and in BBP prefix they changed it into a small B.  But later in other prefix the series BG? I found in BGJ and BJP (its collectors give me the information for the BJP). Some collectors found a large B at left or right or both side.  I got a BGJ with large B both side and another BGJ large B at the right side.  They are circulated but I'm sure no dealer are interested about that and when I go to the next show I'll check in the inventory and I hope I'll found some uncirculated.  Do you think in future this "error" are taking value and did the charlton catalogue going to insert this variety in the catalogue?  What are the prefix who the people found this "error"?  ??? ???
« Last Edit: February 27, 2005, 10:14:24 pm by cbeaulieu »
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2005, 10:16:43 pm »

Hi collectors,
This is my other scan of my second $2 with only one large B.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2005, 11:07:33 pm »

I suppose I stand corrected.

It seems that evidently there is a changeover in BGJ.  In the interests of narrowing down this changeover, I'll make a list with the new information.

In fact, I think what I might do is consolidate the BBP/BBX and BGJ lists into one, and simply keep the two numbers that are closest to the perceived changeover.  Before I make this change, I'll leave an opportunity for comments now.

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2005, 11:39:33 pm »

I checked my pile of circulated $2 spenders and found BGJ 3226048, lowering the Big B low just a hair.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2005, 11:48:09 pm »

If anybody on the forum has any other BG* $2 prefixes with one or two "large B's" in them, is it possible to provide a scan of the serial number?  

Also, on February 27, 2005, Cbeaulieu wrote:
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...I found in BGJ and BJP (its collectors give me the information for the BJP).  


:o  You mean to say that there are reports of the $100 prefix BJP with the big B variety?!   :o  Or do you mean BGP?   ??? Some people get confused with their J's and G's sometimes!    ::)

By the way, nice 2-digit radar that BGJ 1117111...   ::)

Bye Fore For Now  ;D , Jonathan  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 03:28:17 pm »

I have the complete BG series and the only one I have with the 2 different size B's is the BGJ prefix. Small on the left and large on the right
BGJ 2074207
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2005, 12:38:36 am »

Hi collectors,
                   I think this new kind of"error"will be in the next Charleton catalogue and after that all the people will check in the 2$ 1986 stock if they found it!I went to nuphilex show this week end at Mtl and I checked all the dealers 2$ stock,I can confirm no dealer take attention of that.A dealer have two shoes box full of 2$1986 it take 1 hour and half to past throw(the grade of the 2$ are between UNC and EF).I founded BBP prefix large B and small B in uncirculation condition and the dealer did not suspect they were more expensive than the regular one,I paid 20$ for the both 2$. And I founded BGJ with large B at the right side(AU) and I think that I found a new prefix with large B who nobody talk about their existence in this prefix. Two BGL in sequense in AU condition with large B at the right side. I think it's gone a be the same things for the 20$ without back plate number and some variety was more scarce than the others.Take advace before they will be listed because you'll gone a pay more than now. I appreciate if other collectors will communicate his discovery.I will thanks the CPMS menber BWJM who put my discovery in his topic. ;D
See the next topic for the scan.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2005, 12:47:44 am »

This is the scan.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2005, 12:49:04 am by cbeaulieu »
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2005, 12:55:30 pm »

Are there BGL notes with two small Bs?  or are they all large Bs (on the left)?

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2005, 07:18:40 pm »

Yes, I am pretty certain that there are BGL notes with two small B's.  In fact, to the best of my knowledge, there are some BGJ notes with two small B's (just comes from almost 23 years of experience observing serial numbers on Canadian banknotes ;D).

If anybody has any BGJ or BGL notes with two small B's, could you please post a scan of the note?  :)

Thanks, Jonathan  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005, 08:07:46 pm »

Hi collectors,
                  I found two 2$ in sequence with the prefix BGL without large ''B''.The serial number are:BGL9897758 and 9897759.If anyone have information,let it know to help us to find the range of the variety of large ''B''????When it begin,when it finish???
             Thank you all!!
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2005, 01:01:07 pm »

Hi,
   I found this banknote on e-bay and it have two small ''B''.The higher serial number in BGJ with large ''B'' it's 3665052 and this the serial number without large ''B'' 5717996,the difference it's 2052944.Where the range of large ''B'' finish?Between BGJ3665052 and BGJ5717996.If you have other information let me.Thank you.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2006, 05:31:52 pm »

Hi collectors,
                  This is my last discovery about large ''B'' in the prefix BGJ.In the past I let information about the prefix I found:
                                
                                    BGJ1117111  two large''B''
                                    BGJ3665052  one large ''B''(right)
 This is the two new large ''B'' I found in the show this week-end at Mtl.(Nuphilex):
                                    BGJ0004138  one large ''B''(right)
                                    BGJ0845290  one large ''B''(right)

The dealer do not take attention about this variety and he sold me this notes like a regular one.A c.p.m.s. member have:
                                
                                    BGJ0806468 one large ''B''(right)
                                    BGJ2074207 one large ''B''(right)

This prefix with one large ''B''.are only at the right??? :-/
And the large ''B'' at the left was seen only on BGL and BGP prefix??? :-?

I have a list about the BG? prefix without large ''B'' I found at different show or on e-bay or with other collectors on this site since one year.If someone have information or discovery to let us know about this variety it will be apreciated.Specially me. ;)

You can contact me by e-mail:cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2006, 05:40:36 pm »

Hi,
   This is the scan of the two large ''B''. ;)
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2006, 07:25:00 pm »

All the known notes with big or small Bs are found here:
http://wiki.bwjm.ca/index.php?title=Big_B_Small_B_Registry

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2006, 02:02:50 pm »

Hi,
   I went to the CNA,and I found another large''B'':
           BGJ:0007497(96)-1532267(66) with one large''B'' at the right side.
   If I check the list:
           Prefix       Serial       Variety       Comments
BGJ      0000000            Confirmed Endpoint
BGJ      0004138      Small/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      0644000      Small/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      0806468      Small/Big      CPMS Newsletter, June 1998
BGJ      0845290      Small/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      0999999      Small/Big      Possible Endpoint?
 
BGJ      1000000      Big/Big      Possible Endpoint?
BGJ      1117111      Big/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      1918536      Big/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      1999999      Big/Big      Possible Endpoint?
 
BGJ      2000000      Small/Big      Possible Endpoint?
BGJ      2074207      Small/Big      Private Collection (bluenoser)
BGJ      3665052      Small/Big      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      4999999      Small/Big      Possible Endpoint?
 
BGJ      5000000      Small/Small      Possible Endpoint?
BGJ      5717996      Small/Small      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      8107936      Small/Small      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      8184257      Small/Small      Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ      9999999            Confirmed Endpoint
      
          At the BGJ with two large''B'' the range begin at 1000000 and maybe stop at 2000000.I found notes with one large''B'' at 1532266-67,I think the variety with two large''B'' will be more scarce???Is this possible to found the range of that variety with one or two large''B''??And I also found on e-bay maybe the higher BGJ with one large''B''(BGJ3787822).
          About the BGP prefix, this is the serial number with one large''B''I found:
      BGP:1430000-1936000-6836926  large''B'' at left side
          And this is the BGP without large''B'' I found:
      BGP:0092000-0304483-1065917-2011575-9017448(55)
         What is the possible range or how much of those variety exist???
        Did someone can help me or have some notes with this variety,just let me know?Thanks.
                       Claude
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2006, 08:53:16 pm »

Hi collectors,
                  I went to nuphilex friday at the opening.This is my last discovery in the variety''big B in BG prefix''.For now we have large''B'' in BGJ,BGL and BGP prefix.I found a new prefix with large''B'' at the left in BGR prefix.The serial number is BGR1716826.In my list who I report all BG prefix I found in BG prefix with and without large''B'' I have BGR 1715784 without large ''B'',it's a difference of 1042 notes and the near I have after the large''B'' I found it's 4461854.I also have BGR 1067992 without large ''B''.How much or what is the possible range of this variety?If you have a BG prefix with and without large ''B'' it will be apreciate if you contact me to let me information.This is my e-mail address:

                                 cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
               Thank you,
                                Claude
   This is the scan of my BGR large''B'':

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2007, 06:06:29 pm »

A few more notes for the list.

Gary

 
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 07:35:07 pm »

Hi Gary,
            Thank you  to taking  time on this variety,I hope others  collectors will share  their discovery on this site in the futur :o .It will be apreciate.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2008, 08:12:51 pm »

Hi,
    I found 2$ BGJ with two large ''B''  between two range with one large ''B''.The near BGJ with one large ''B'' it's 0644000(diff. of 75302),the two large''B'' 0719302 and the next I found with one large ''B'' it's 0806468(diff. of 88166).Is this possible to found the range of the one large''B'' and two large''B''?If someone can help me it will be apreciate.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2008, 12:43:41 am »

I've got BGJ 1123287 with one large B.

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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2008, 09:06:49 pm »

Hi,
    This the updated for the 2$ 1986 with large''B'' in prefix BGJ:

BGJ 0004138        small/big
BGJ 0007496-97   small/big
BGJ 0095395-96   small/big
BGJ 0644000        small/big
BGJ 0719302          big/big
BGJ 0806468        small/big
BGJ 0845290        small/big
BGJ 0994676           big/big
BGJ 0998403           big/big
BGJ 1117111           big/big
BGJ 1123287        small/big
BGJ 1357874           big/big
BGJ 1419495-97      big/big
BGJ 1462354         small/big
BGJ 1532266         small/big
BGJ 1918000           big/big
BGJ 2074207         small/big
BGJ 2190305           big/big
BGJ 2331178           big/big
BGJ 2852955           big/big
BGJ 2863673         small/big
BGJ 2892207         small/big
BGJ 3106580         small/big
BGJ 3388489         small/big
BGJ 3443500         small/big
BGJ 3665052         small/big
BGJ 3764410         small/big
BGJ 3787820-22    small/big
BGJ 4613306-94  The near serial number I found with two small ''B''.
I hope in futur and with more information will be able to found the possibility of the several range it have??Do not be affraid to let me new information about that!Thank you.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2016, 10:08:10 pm »

Today i have buy 2$ 1986 BGM with large B on the left side and small B right side.
Serial number BGM 3216142

I not found this prefixe on the listing
http://wiki.cdnpapermoney.com/index.php?title=Big_B_Small_B_Register


 

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