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ogopogo
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« on: February 20, 2017, 09:30:05 pm »

Anyone experiencing any lost mail from PMG?
Sitting here hoping a pack of bills that hit Canada Feb 5 gets delivered.
Canada Post won`t help as they don`t track international mail.
Lost don`t know what to do.
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 09:53:03 pm »

It is most likely sitting in customs. I had a large one sit there for 4 weeks. My wife found a phone number to call online(unfortunately I didn't keep it) but I called the number and the customs agent knew right away which package I was referring to. She asked me a few questions about what it was and why, then told me she is now releasing it. I received it 2 days later.

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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 11:42:32 pm »

I wouldn't even think of using the Post Office for bulk submissions to PMG or PCGS. I use FedEx without any exception whatsoever.  It's not cheap ($50-$100 depending on the package weight) but the quality of the tracking and the speed of delivery are mesmerizing. A package sent from Ottawa before 4:00 pm one day will arrive at PMG in Florida before noon the following day, and vice versa. My customs declaration always reads "Printed documents being sent to PMG for certification, then returned to sender",  or words to that effect. Fedex does not deliver to PO Boxes though.

Last October, I lost a $300 banknote that I sent to the UK by Registered Post. It was tracked through Montreal and to Heathrow Airport in the UK but then it disappeared. I'm still waiting for some sort of minimal compensation from Canada Post and that's after four months and two online complaints. I don't blame Canada Post in this case as the item did arrive in the UK although it never got to its proper destination.

I've used FedEx for overseas deliveries too. A banknote sent to INDIA arrived TWO DAYS LATER, as did a banknote sent to QATAR. The cost in each case was about $110 but it's worth it if only for the peace of mind. Registered Post would have taken three weeks or longer, and the item may have been lost or stolen along the way.

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 07:27:10 am »

This is the standard letter that PMG includes when it returns graded notes to Canadian customers, thereby averting all potential Customs problems and delays.

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 07:29:05 am »


" Buy the very best notes that you can afford and keep them for at least 10 years. " (Richard D. Lockwood, private communication, 1978).
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 10:01:03 am »

Last October, I lost a $300 banknote that I sent to the UK by Registered Post. It was tracked through Montreal and to Heathrow Airport in the UK but then it disappeared. I'm still waiting for some sort of minimal compensation from Canada Post and that's after four months and two online complaints. I don't blame Canada Post in this case as the item did arrive in the UK although it never got to its proper destination.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any compensation above what you paid for the postage. "Canada Post shall have no liability for loss, damage or rifling of Registered Mail (U.S.A. and International) items containing banknotes". https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/pgregistus-e.asp

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 10:12:44 am »

"Printed documents being sent to PMG for certification, then returned to sender"

Well now I know what to put down on the declaration for customs.
Thanks for that.
It is still undelivered and I have called Canada Border Services and actually had a postal worker in Canada try and find it.
Moving to Fed Ex.
Somewhere out there is a nice consecutive pair of 1975 $50 and a couple of fold errors.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 04:24:47 pm »

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any compensation above what you paid for the postage. "Canada Post shall have no liability for loss, damage or rifling of Registered Mail (U.S.A. and International) items containing banknotes". https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/pgregistus-e.asp

Thanks Seth, although I was already painfully aware of the liability issue. By far the most scary word in the above paragraph is "RIFLING" and I think that word was added to the Canada Post regulations relatively recently. It's tantamount to an admission by Canada Post that it knows that rifling does occur within its system. I often feel that, in the long run, it would be safer to send paper money of modest value by regular (un-Registered) post in order not to draw attention to contents of possible value. High value items should always be sent by FedEx, although I'm sure FedEx too experiences losses from time to time .... The life of a paper money collector ain't so easy these days ...  :-[

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 06:33:39 pm »

By far the most scary word in the above paragraph is "RIFLING" and I think that word was added to the Canada Post regulations relatively recently.

I agree, I've looked at these terms before and definitely do not remember "rifling" being in there.

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 06:53:23 pm »

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The life of a paper money collector ain't so easy these days ... 

With cheap flights to Florida, maybe personally delivering your notes to PMG might be the way to go.... ;D



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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 07:32:15 am »

It is still undelivered and I have called Canada Border Services and actually had a postal worker in Canada try and find it.
Moving to Fed Ex.
Somewhere out there is a nice consecutive pair of 1975 $50 and a couple of fold errors.

Let's hope that your package has merely been delayed and not lost. Keep us up to date with any developments. Good luck!

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 08:04:48 pm »

I hope they do get delivered and that it's just held up in the "system".  I was wondering why you chose PMG versus BCS (no Customs or cross border issues)?  I have not tried PMG yet and have had a great turn around time from BCS, but am always looking at other opinions or options.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2017, 08:25:05 pm »

I hope they do get delivered and that it's just held up in the "system".  I was wondering why you chose PMG versus BCS (no Customs or cross border issues)?  I have not tried PMG yet and have had a great turn around time from BCS, but am always looking at other opinions or options.

Although grading by PMG is costlier if you read previous posts you will see that in most cases PMG notes get higher grades than do BCS notes....Therefore from a sellers point of view better grade = more $$$$$
Also PMG is more known world wide which also makes some sellers prefer this TPG over a Canadian TPG
Only my opinion



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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2017, 08:30:40 pm »

Ok, that explains an item I heard that sometimes people or companies will remove notes from BCs holders and send them in to have them graded by another company. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2017, 09:43:03 am »

Yes I read a lot in this forum about the higher grading and switching of notes to PMG interesting and informative posts
 

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