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General => General Forum Comments => Topic started by: tommyboy on January 14, 2007, 06:55:42 pm
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I have a note that is called a birthday note. The year is obvious but can the day and year be different like these numbers? 1965163 -16th day MARCH. What if the numbers were 1965316, would it be -3-March and 16th day? TOM C
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You can make it work any way you like. The number 1311962 could be either Janurary-31st-1962 or 13th-Jan-1962.
Your note would be 1965-16th-March.
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Something like Gary_T's example of a birthday note.
http://picasaweb.google.com/twoparroteyes/MyFindsIntoTheWorldOfBrickSearching/photo#5020071655298384834
AOL 1311962
PD
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Thanks and link works. Tom C
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In order for a note to be a "Birthday Note" do all seven numbers have to be used in the date? I would say yes. The example used by Punky's Dad (#1311962) is either Jan 13, 1962 or Jan 31, 1962. If you have a banknote that say has the serial number 5691967, I would think that this would NOT be a Birthday Note because only 4 of the 7 numbers are being used. I have seen some banknotes on eBay with a similar number layout where you only have the year, yet they are saying that these are Birthday Notes. Any opinions?
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I was looking at the Charleton guide page 362 N7, he implies that Birthyear notes are those with serial numbers conatining 1900 to 2004 etc. So you would need only four digits to meet that criteria. Therefore, xx1999x, xxx1999, or 1999xxx would fit that criteria. 19xx99x is stretcting it too far. :D
Birthdate note I would agree to be distinct from the Birthyear note where the day and month is designated by the remaining digits.
$20 for a Journey Birthyear? I don't know how they came up with that estimate. I would have expected that price for a complete Birthdate. Otherwise the buyer has the final say on what it's worth.
Happy Birthday Gary_T
May the smiley angel Numismatica drop the brick at your doorstep. :)
PD
http://picasaweb.google.com/twoparroteyes/MyFindsIntoTheWorldOfBrickSearching/photo#5020071736902763490
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In order for a note to be a "Birthday Note" do all seven numbers have to be used in the date? I would say yes. The example used by Punky's Dad (#1311962) is either Jan 13, 1962 or Jan 31, 1962. If you have a banknote that say has the serial number 5691967, I would think that this would NOT be a Birthday Note because only 4 of the 7 numbers are being used. I have seen some banknotes on eBay with a similar number layout where you only have the year, yet they are saying that these are Birthday Notes. Any opinions?
There is no 56th of September? 56 9 1967 ?
Oh boy, thats why I struggle with time so much. ;)
IMO
Birthday note= all 7 digits
Birthyear note = xxx1967 or something like that.
To comment on below, yes x = 0 makes sense in some cases
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What if the birthday note is 0111961 for January 1 1961. Then you only need 6 numbers...
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What if the birthday note is 0111961 for January 1 1961. Then you only need 6 numbers...
Good point there Mike.
x can = 0. Last time I checked zero is still a digit/number back when I started learning the new math in High school. Maybe I'm still confused now over it. Man it's hard to find someone born in 1311. ;)
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So complicated...who came up with this birthyear/date idea in Charlton anyway?
I like Hudson's analysis
Birthday note= all 7 digits
Birthyear note = only 4 digits
For a birthyear note, the price of $20 for an UNC $5 bill seems high for something that is common. I've turfed a lot of these notes because they were only a birthyear not the birthdate. Silly me. :D
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There seems to be alot of confusion about "Birthyear" notes.
A birthyear note (N7) MUST have the first three digits all zero, such as "S/X 0001984". These notes DO sell for a reasonable premium and are quite hard to find. I would say in fact that the charlton values are on the low side. Anything else, call it what you like, isn't listed in the Charlton catalogue, and most likely isn't worth any premium at all.
h_p
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Here is birthyear note
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It works for me. See, I could still learn something afterall.
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Its numbers 0001900 to 0002004 that are birthyear notes. Numbers like 0001535 or 0004292 are not.
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That is correct Birth year notes are hard to find. I know I have been looking for 2 years nearly for my daughters birthyear note. I do not know of anyone who has any birthyear notes and am looking for them.
Birthday notes example 5212005 I look at as a true birthyear note. It has the month day and year. There are only a few dates of Birthday notes that can be found. For example you cannot have someone who is October 28 1946 The numbers would be 10281946...1 too many numbers.
I believe you can only go to 9302XXX.
If you go day/month/year that is a new story
3192XXX seems to be the largest number
How ever you look at it it is a special number that can be special to someone. Does the notes require a premium. I think Birthyear notes require a premium, Where the heck are they all. there must be around 1000 in circulation. Is the $20 a fair price. I think they are undervalued due to only 1 of 10 Million of each prefix. It all depends on what you take as a value. My humble opinion.
polarbear
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So what would you call a note that has 1975XXX Is that regarded as a birthyear note or not.
Polarbear
There seems to be alot of confusion about "Birthyear" notes.
A birthyear note (N7) MUST have the first three digits all zero, such as "S/X 0001984". These notes DO sell for a reasonable premium and are quite hard to find. I would say in fact that the charlton values are on the low side. Anything else, call it what you like, isn't listed in the Charlton catalogue, and most likely isn't worth any premium at all.
h_p
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Would anyone consider this a birth year note? I have 10 new $5's with serial #'s AOM 1919050-1919059. If you take the 1905 part than the last digit 1-9 and the first 2 digits 19. Would it be still considred a birth year note?
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or you could say the year 1919 month 05 day 9
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Thanks. :)
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Would anyone consider this a birth year note? I have 10 new $5's with serial #'s AOM 1919050-1919059. If you take the 1905 part than the last digit 1-9 and the first 2 digits 19. Would it be still considred a birth year note?
h_p and Mikesonfire clearly documented that a birthyear note must be XXX1954 or 0001937. They are somewhat rare and hard to find, so a dealer might be interested in a birthyear note...but hardly a highly subjective number like a birthday note.
The most popular birth year notes often are notes with the same year as when a note was issued. So for 1954 or 1937 series the two above numbers would apply. If you were born in 1962 you might want a 0001962. If you're a "Journey junkie"... you might want 0002001 (or 0002000 radar for the purest) for the $10 and 0002002 for the $5.00.
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or if your daughter was born in 2005, 2005 would be super special Ha Ha. Had to fit it in if I could James. Ah to be crazy
Cheers
Polarbear
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So what would you call a note that has 1975XXX Is that regarded as a birthyear note or not.
Polarbear
There seems to be alot of confusion about "Birthyear" notes.
A birthyear note (N7) MUST have the first three digits all zero, such as "S/X 0001984". These notes DO sell for a reasonable premium and are quite hard to find. I would say in fact that the charlton values are on the low side. Anything else, call it what you like, isn't listed in the Charlton catalogue, and most likely isn't worth any premium at all.
h_p
I wondered about that too. As the last three digits for zeros like AOR 2005000 or if the public uses up a lot of Prefixes to APR 2005000 or even MAY 2005000. The Prefix could play a role in the date. JAN, FEB, JUL, NOV, DEC, etc. Hmmm, why does that MAY date ring a bell?
PD
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JAN
FEB was used (Journey $10)
MAR
APR is potentially for a Journey $5
MAY
JUN
JUL
AUG was used (Birds $2).
SEP
OCT
NOV
DEC