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estateman
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« on: February 15, 2015, 03:15:38 pm »

I am assisting with an estate and have many coins and several albums of banknotes. The ones I need help with, at the moment, are the following Proof & Specimen notes in a CCC sealed sleeve:

a. 1896 Face Proof - $5 - Ontario Bank
b. 1896 Back Proof - $5 - Ontario Bank
c. 1897 Face Proof - $20 - Dominion Bank
d. 1897 Back Proof - $20 - Dominion Bank
e. 1888 Face Proof - $10 - Dominion Bank
f. 1888 Back Proof - $10 - Dominion Bank
g. 1899 Face Proof - $50 - Merchant Bank of Halifax
h. 1899 Face Proof - $50 - Merchant Bank of Halifax
I. 1901 Face Proof - $50 - Dominion Bank
j. 1901 Back Proof - $50 - Dominion Bank
k. 1905 Face Proof - $5 - Dominion Bank
l. 1905 Back Proof - $5 - Dominion Bank
l. 1922 La Banque National - $100,$50,$20,$10,$5 all specimen "60".
Also have some circulated Independent Bank Notes.

any assistance on scarcity/valuation is greatly appreciated.
estateman
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2015, 03:21:04 pm »

« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 07:50:38 pm by BWJM »
estateman
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 01:49:58 am »

Looks like I picked the wrong forum to get some advice.  :(
BWJM
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 02:10:55 am »

Gee... You seem to have pretty high expectations that people are going to jump all over themselves to get you a fast reply, and one which will probably require more than a few minutes of thought too.

Give people a chance.

You also have not provided any information as to grading or the condition of the notes.  This is a HUGE factor in determining a note's value.  As well, the images provided do not match up with the notes you mention.  So it's going to be really hard for anyone to give you any information in the first place.

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estateman
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 12:01:17 pm »

Thanks Mr Administrator. I only posted an observation, no need to jump all over me. I was advised in another forum where there is much discussion on my similar post that this was the place for discussion/valuation on the rarer notes. I was simply looking for a general response from someone as to the bank notes listed in my post in order to determine if I post detailed pictures :-\. Based on your advice, I will make the effort to list a few of the notes to see if I get the feedback you suggest. :-\

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 01:20:50 pm »

h. 1899 Face Proof - $50 - Merchant Bank of Halifax   $700 in unc but my cat is 4th edition



Always looking for #1 serial number notes in any denomination/any series
estateman
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 01:58:29 pm »

Here are some of the notes I have. Any feedback is appreciated as to value/scarcity..can't find much online.




« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 07:50:04 pm by BWJM »
estateman
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 02:03:02 pm »

Some 1922 Banque Nationale Notes - All labelled specimen


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« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 07:48:46 pm by BWJM »
friedsquid
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2015, 09:13:38 am »

if you have a local chapters you can check them out...they likely have the up to date catalogue that you can buy or browse through...it may be worth your while...pretty straight forward to use...



Always looking for #1 serial number notes in any denomination/any series
chilliwackdave
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2015, 08:54:28 pm »

The following prices are from the 4th Ed. of Canadian Bank Notes 2002.
Catalogue states that back proofs with one or more vignettes are worth 33% of face proof prices
and back proofs with only the bank name, lathework and counters are worth 25% of face proof prices.

a. 1888 Face Proof coloured - $10 - Ontario Bank      18-06Pa  $600 
b. 1888 Back Proof coloured - $10 - Ontario Bank      25% of face proof
c. 1897 Face Proof - $20 - Dominion Bank                 no info. in catalogue
d. 1897 Back Proof - $20 - Dominion Bank                no info. in catalogue
e. 1888 Face Proof - $10 - Dominion Bank                12-06P    $600
f. 1888 Back Proof - $10 - Dominion Bank                33% of face proof
g. 1899 Face Proof - $50 - Merchant Bank of Halifax  22-08P     $700
h. 1899 Back Proof - $50 - Merchant Bank of Halifax  33% of face proof
I. 1901 Face Proof - $50 - Dominion Bank                   no info. in catalogue
j. 1901 Back Proof - $50 - Dominion Bank                   no info. in catalogue
k. 1905 Face Proof - $5 - Dominion Bank                    no info. in catalogue
l. 1905 Back Proof - $5 - Dominion Bank                     no info. in catalogue
l. 1922 La Banque National - $100,$50,$20,$10,$5 all specimen "60".   
    $100   22-10S $300
    $ 50    22-08S $250
    $ 20    22-06S $250
    $ 10    22-04S $200
    $  5     22-02S $200

Again, these prices are not current but should give you a start. As Friedsquid suggested, a newer edition of the Charlton standard catalogue of Canadian bank notes would certainly be a worthwhile investment and may be more detailed.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2015, 07:09:21 pm »

apparently the 1888 Ontario $10 Colour note is worth quite a bit more than the rest?
 

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