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Title: Hos mixed brick
Post by: polarbear on March 15, 2006, 08:25:48 pm

Hi disected a HOS brick and came up with this result.  A little puzzled because of how it was numbered


HOS
0918786-0918885

0919336-0918935

0919872-0919918,  0919419-0919484

09019919-0919999,  0919750-0919771

0918486-0918499,  098250-0918335

0917936-0917999,  0917750-0917785

0914882-0914783

0916332-0916250,  0916499-0916483

0914932-0914919,  0917418-0917333

Now the odd one

0917482-0917419,  [highlight]0919951-0919949,[/highlight]  0917918-0917886

These 3 notes were in this last bundle.  I was wondering if the BofC is shuffling them this way to mix us up or is this [highlight]possible another insert range in the HOS Prefix. [/highlight] Did anyone else get this shuffling  in their  bundles?

 Any thoughts would be appreciated

Thanks
Polarbear

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: polarbear on March 15, 2006, 08:58:58 pm

OOPS  

It wasn't HOS it was HOR.  Sorry for mixing up everyone.

Polarbear :-[

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: Roberto on March 15, 2006, 09:18:13 pm

if you divides with other "are insert"  ;)
if you does not divide are  "not insert"  :'(

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: BWJM on March 16, 2006, 12:09:37 am

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if you divides with other "are insert"  ;)
if you does not divide are  "not insert"  :'(

uhhh.... what??? :-? :-/ I'm just guessing here, but I think something got lost in translation.

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: sudzee on March 16, 2006, 12:23:11 am

All of your notes fall into a single group of 20,000 notes. Your highlighted notes are from sheets 449 - 949 / 450 - 950 / 451 - 951. You will find notes from the same sheets in at least 3 of your bundles. None are replacement notes.

Remember that each sheet will be somewaht as follows:

0900449  0900949  0901449  0901949  0902449

0902949  0903449  0903949  0904449  0904949

0905449  0905949  0906449  0906949  0907449

0907949  0908449  0908949  0909449  0909949

0910449  0910949  0911449  0911949  0912449

0912949  0913449  0913949  0914449  0914949

0915449  0915949  0916449  0916949  0917449

0917949  0918449  0918949  0919449  0919949

This is the CBN format for a 5 x 8 sheet of 40 notes.  All 000 and 500 are on the same sheet as are 250 - 750 and 449 - 949. Take notice also that all bundles contain only notes from 250 sheets ( 250- 499 and 750-999 ). This would indicate that the printer cut 250 sheets at a time.

Hope this helps.

Gary

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: polarbear on March 16, 2006, 12:31:25 am

The highlighted ones came in a weird spot.  there were only 3 in that spot.  Is it a shuffling that is going on with the notes now.

Polarbear

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: Hudson A B on March 16, 2006, 12:59:30 am

Gary is right. Other members have discovered and documented this as well.
The note that is "different" in this brick is obviously absent in its own brick, but it's own brick is just another brick in the sheet.(See above diagram by Gary).  Other bricks of the group of 45 will exhibit the same behavior.  We know that the bricks are non-inserts, therefore, the notes of the bricks are non-insert.

  
This shows then that these "different" notes are in fact regular notes, cut from the same brick grouping of non-insert bricks.  
In essence, this is similar to the "QCIN" situation (which were also not insert notes),  
because the notes simply replace themselves in eachother's bricks. 

Therefore, the "different" notes are not insert notes, as there is no true "missing notes" to have replaced in the entire family of 45 bricks.

Title: Re: Hos mixed brick
Post by: glassmancanada on March 17, 2006, 11:21:24 pm

So the prefix is HOR and not HOS. Well that finally makes sense. I have HOS replacements in the 0.90 range found in HOS 8.94. When I first heard about this I was told prefix HOS which would have meant the whole brick was replacements. I'm glad that sorted now.