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Canadian Notes => Bank of Canada Notes => Topic started by: BILLWATCHER on September 15, 2014, 11:33:06 pm

Title: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: BILLWATCHER on September 15, 2014, 11:33:06 pm

  I do not see any reference to Lawson-Bouey with the devils face  Is this a possibility or a known variety?

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: venga50 on September 16, 2014, 10:18:38 am

A Lawson-Bouey Devil's Face note of any denomination would be impossible. At the time of the Lawson-Bouey signatures, the signatures were part of the intaglio printing so the portrait and signatures would have been engraved into the same plate.

I did see the following note on eBay several years ago with Beattie-Rasminsky signatures. Can't say for sure if it's a Photoshop job or not, but this would be possible since the signatures here were added separately after the intaglio printing was applied.

(http://www.imagesup.net/dm-614108770606.png) (http://www.imagesup.net/pm-614108770606.png)

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: BILLWATCHER on September 16, 2014, 12:26:39 pm

This $1 note looks alot like a devils face, but probably doesn't quite make it. :'(
www.ebay.ca/itm/331320082655?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: Northwest5 on September 16, 2014, 06:47:50 pm

Definitely not a Devils Face note..

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: JB-2007 on September 16, 2014, 07:51:30 pm

Devils Face can only be seen on notes with Signatures Coyne-Towers and Beattie-Coyne. By the time Lawson-Bouey '54 series notes hit circulation in the mid 70's, the devils face variety was long passed.

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: Dean on September 21, 2014, 10:45:11 am

Quote from: venga50 on September 16, 2014, 10:18:38 am

A Lawson-Bouey Devil's Face note of any denomination would be impossible. At the time of the Lawson-Bouey signatures, the signatures were part of the intaglio printing so the portrait and signatures would have been engraved into the same plate.

I did see the following note on eBay several years ago with Beattie-Rasminsky signatures. Can't say for sure if it's a Photoshop job or not, but this would be possible since the signatures here were added separately after the intaglio printing was applied.

(http://www.imagesup.net/dm-614108770606.png) (http://www.imagesup.net/pm-614108770606.png)

Is it known whether there are any "good-overs" known for the $1000 denomination?
This note would have had to sit around, unfinished until 1961-1968.  (1961 for the Beattie-Rasminsky signature combo, and 1968 when they began engraving signatures on the plates.)

The number is also low...What is the range of numbers for Beattie-Rasminsky notes?
Could this be a really good photoshop job?

Thanks,
Dean

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: DREDGE on September 21, 2014, 08:16:42 pm

The range for Beattie Rasminsky notes was 0062001-0122400
However that was for modified portrait notes

Beattie Coyne modified portrait was 0030001- 0062000

Title: Re: 1954 $1 Lawson-Bouey Devils Face?
Post by: JB-2007 on September 22, 2014, 10:45:58 pm

Quote from: Dean on September 21, 2014, 10:45:11 am

Could this be a really good photoshop job?


Dean

Or could this $1,000 be counterfeit?

There has never been any "good-overs" reported to date on the $1,000 notes or on any 1954 series to date.