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CelticFC
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« on: March 07, 2007, 10:37:28 pm »

Hello,

This is my first posting and would like to get an idea of what some of my bills could be worth.  I have quite a bit, so I'll list only the ones that seem important. I know very little and would appreciate the help of some of the PRO'S.

1954  $1-Beat/Rasm *B/M 4185862 (EF)
            -Bau/Rasm  *C/F 0669900 (VF)
            -Beat/Rasm *A/F 0271142 (F)
            -Beat/Rasm  L/O 6784824  (VF-EF)
            -Bau/Rasm    J/F 8500000  (G-VG)
            -Beat/Rasm  I/Y 0694000  (EF)
            -Bau/Rasm  M/F 0034772  (EF)

1973  $1-Law/Bau *MM6745877 (AU)
            -Cro/Bau   BFH1777776 (AU)
            -Cro/Bau   BCK5073991 (unc)  >  These 3 Have a Flying 'B' in the RED
                 "             "        992  (unc)  >  coloured (left) serial #. Slightly, but                                      
                 "             "        993  (unc)  >  very noticable.

1954  $2-Bau/Rasm *A/G 3209927 (VF)      1986  $2-Thie/Cro CBH0876417 (AU)
            -Law/Bau  O/G 0383797  (VF/EF)                -Thie/Cro BUU8980273 (AU)
            -Law/Bau  N/G 9138704 (UNC)
1974  $2-Law/Bau RT6000034 (AU)
            -Law/Bau RV0000057 (F)
            -Law/Bau *BX6489579 (EF)

1954  $5-Coy/Tow  B/C 9443857 (AU) Devil's Face
            -Bau/Rasm T/X 5356209 (AU)
            -Bea/Rasm J/X 8080851 (AU)

1972  $5-Law/Bau SN5044444 (EF)

1954  $20-Bea/Rasm X/E 8036850 (AU)


Thanks for taking a look,
Frank
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 11:11:19 pm »

the charlton catalog that you can buy from any book store it would be the most helpful for you
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 02:57:42 am »

Hi Frank and welcome to the forum, well the response you've gotten or lack of response is because of the large amount you have listed. I'll do my best to give values the notes that have no value beside them are worth face value or maybe 10% above.

1954  $1-Beat/Rasm *B/M 4185862 (EF) =$7.00
            -Bau/Rasm  *C/F 0669900 (VF) =$5.00
            -Beat/Rasm *A/F 0271142 (F)  =$5.00
            -Beat/Rasm  L/O 6784824  (VF-EF)
            -Bau/Rasm    J/F 8500000  (G-VG)
            -Beat/Rasm  I/Y 0694000  (EF)
            -Bau/Rasm  M/F 0034772  (EF)
 
1973  $1-Law/Bau *MM6745877 (AU) = $28.00
            -Cro/Bau   BFH1777776 (AU)
            -Cro/Bau   BCK5073991 (unc)  >  These 3 Have a Flying 'B' in the RED
                 "             "        992  (unc)  >  coloured (left) serial #. Slightly, but                                        
                 "             "        993  (unc)  >  very noticable.
 
1954  $2-Bau/Rasm *A/G 3209927 (VF)      1986  $2-Thie/Cro CBH0876417 (AU)= $15.00
            -Law/Bau  O/G 0383797  (VF/EF)=$20-$50.00                -Thie/Cro BUU8980273 (AU)
            -Law/Bau  N/G 9138704 (UNC)
1974  $2-Law/Bau RT6000034 (AU)
            -Law/Bau RV0000057 (F) =Nice low # tough to value
            -Law/Bau *BX6489579 (EF) = $40.00
 
1954  $5-Coy/Tow  B/C 9443857 (AU) Devil's Face =$200.00
            -Bau/Rasm T/X 5356209 (AU) =$16.00
            -Bea/Rasm J/X 8080851 (AU) =$20.00
 
1972  $5-Law/Bau SN5044444 (EF) = $12.00
 
1954  $20-Bea/Rasm X/E 8036850 (AU) =$50.00

The 1973 $1 notes with mis-alined BCK serial is not worth much I think, anyone with a different opinion is welcome to voice it.

Hope this helps and I second the opinion that a Charlton catalogue would be a great help to you.


 

Gary_T
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 11:48:21 am »

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            -Cro/Bau   BCK5073991 (unc)  >  These 3 Have a Flying 'B' in the RED
                 "             "        992  (unc)  >  coloured (left) serial #. Slightly, but                                      
                 "             "        993  (unc)  >  very noticable.

Hi Frank, welcome to the forums! If you have a scan/picture available please post it. There are several error collectors on this forum who would be able to assess the value of the notes.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 12:01:19 pm »

Hey Gary,

Thanks for taking the time to look at all those.  I was hoping that some of them would stick out in the bunch.  I guess I did alright.  I picked all those up and more at face value,  $138.00 worth.  

I have a couple more 1954 Twenties.  What makes them worth $50 or more?

p.s.     RE: 1973 $1 ( misaligned serial# )  I can post the picture in a couple days.

Thx,

Frank
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 03:13:04 pm »

Welcome to the Forum Frank  :)

What makes a 1954 $20 worth $50 or more..............condition of the note(s) or type of note. Is it a Devil Face or Modified. Just that simple.

Hope you are encouraged to hang on to the notes and maybe hang around on the Forum.

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 04:09:26 pm »

Welcome to the forum Frank:

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picked all those up and more at face value,  $138.00 worth.  

There you have a very good start to a fascinating hobby.  What a bargain! After you've learned about what kind of notes you want to keep and what you feel you could get rid of (sell), you'll be able to shape your collection into something that represents your interests.

Good luck!

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 05:18:11 pm »

Thank you.   I now realize that I should check the rest of the bunch I acquired.  I have had a chance to look at the prefix charts and some other circulation lists and comments from the forum to get an idea of exactly what could be a special note.  Eg. Radars, ladders.

QUESTION:  Why is there not a HI/LOW list for older notes.  For instance, 1974 $2 L/B # RV0000057
                   or, 1974 $2 L/B # *BX6489579 ??
AND:           Why is it hard to value the RV0000057 (F) ?
« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 05:56:50 pm by CelticFC »
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 06:15:32 pm »

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Thank you.   I now realize that I should check the rest of the bunch I acquired.  I have had a chance to look at the prefix charts and some other circulation lists and comments from the forum to get an idea of exactly what could be a special note.  Eg. Radars, ladders.

QUESTION:  Why is there not a HI/LOW list for older notes.  For instance, 1974 $2 L/B # RV0000057
                   or, 1974 $2 L/B # *BX6489579 ??
AND:           Why is it hard to value the RV0000057 (F) ?

It is difficult to value the RV because it is simply what the a buyer is willing to pay. A serial number 57 in F condition is not worth much in terms of the catalogue but a collector may be willing to pay well over catalogue just to own a low serial numbered note.

If you have a note outside of a range in the charlton you can make an updated here;
http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=charlton

Hope this helps
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 06:16:30 pm »

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Thank you.   I now realize that I should check the rest of the bunch I acquired.  I have had a chance to look at the prefix charts and some other circulation lists and comments from the forum to get an idea of exactly what could be a special note.  Eg. Radars, ladders.

QUESTION:  Why is there not a HI/LOW list for older notes.  For instance, 1974 $2 L/B # RV0000057
                   or, 1974 $2 L/B # *BX6489579 ??
AND:           Why is it hard to value the RV0000057 (F) ?

According to the Charlton, a 1974 $2 with serial number between 10 and 99 (yours being 57) books at $75 in UNC condition.  In F condition is worth 25% * $75 or $18.75.

I don't know if that is a good indication of what your bill would sell for, though.  There could be people out there willing to pay a higher premium for such a low number.

Brad

EDIT:  Oops, sorry, Oli1001 beat me to it!
« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 06:18:46 pm by actuary6 »
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 08:41:18 pm »

Thanks Brad

Do a lot of forum members trade or buy and sell off each other?

Anyways, I was wondering if a Bou/Ram 1954 $1 Serial# M/F0034772 be considered a somewhat low number. I can't seem to find a list of older bills for Hi/Low

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 09:31:18 pm »

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Thanks Brad

Do a lot of forum members trade or buy and sell off each other?

Anyways, I was wondering if a Bou/Ram 1954 $1 Serial# M/F0034772 be considered a somewhat low number. I can't seem to find a list of older bills for Hi/Low

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Forum members are trading eachother all the time. I myself have brought or sold notes with members.

Serial number M/F0034772 is a not a low number. The serial number must be lower then 1000. Like 0000867. But 0001000 is still good because its a 2 digit radar.  8-)


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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 09:44:37 pm »

Hi Frank and welcome as a new member of the forum,

Myself I'm a relatively newer member of the forum having not being a member for a year yet but as a returned collector after several years absence.
Yes, forum members do trade, buy and sell through the trading post. In that short time I've been a member I've already traded with several members with no problems at all.
I've seen a few similar ones listed as low numbers on the eB__ auction site by someone but never did find out how it did, personally I feel low numbers are those below 0001000.  eB__ is not particularily a place to learn to properly categorize or grade your collection. This forum is made up of many very knowledgable collectors and experienced graders that can help you build and enjoy your collection.
Best of luck on your collecting experience.

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2007, 10:21:10 am »

Welcome CelticFC

Being a new member, and new to the this hobby as well, I can two things about this forum:

I) Great information and very helpful people.
II) Solid notes available at reasonable prices in the Trading Post. If the claim is UNC, it is.

Ok three things, it is also a great 10 minute or so read every other day to keep up with a hobby that is really complex. Sounds like you got a nice start. My suggestion is that you read and look here for more information before you begin to buy much more though.

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2007, 02:56:47 pm »

Thanks for the info.  
 
I pulled a radar J/D$5 2006 out of my wifes purse this morning not in the best shape.
But the last '3' in the leftside serial# is doubled AOL3755573 is this worth keeping?

Thanks
Frank

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2007, 03:09:29 pm »

Hi Frank!

Welcome to the forum!  ;)

Well, you got yourself a nice 3-Digit Radar. It looks to be in fairly good shape. If you are staring out your collection keep that Radar!

Unless a Radar is really beat up badly it is usually good to keep them. There are many people who collect circulated Radars as well.

Nice Find, it will take time for you to get used to numbers and quickly assess serial numbers and their potential. There are MANY stories of getting notes from ATM's and you may be 10 notes from a radar or something like that so you can calculate how many more notes to get out of of machine before the note you want appears.  :)

I hope you enjoy this hobby and make use of the TREMENDOUS resources and knowledge available from the members of this forum.

Cheers!  8-)


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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2007, 03:15:34 pm »

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The '3' being double in the leftside serial# Makes no difference to its value then?
See page one for snapshot.
Frank
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2007, 04:25:38 pm »

Hey Frank!

What makes it a Radar is that if you start reading the serial number starting from the front of the serial or the back it is still the same serial number.

Here are 3 common examples of 3-Digit Radar Notes:

1233321, 1213121, 1123211

(Your Note is the same as the first example)

Now here is another Radar note but being a 4-Digit Radar

1234321

What makes the difference between the category of radar notes is how many different digits the first 4 numbers are composed of (First set of examples there are only a total of 3 DIFFERENT Digits  thus a 3-Digit Radar, the second example there are 4 DIFFERENT digits thus a 4-Digit Radar).

So now a 2-Digit Radar would only be composed of 2-Digits
(1112111, 1122211, 1222221)

As you can see, the first 4 Digits of the serial number are only composed of 2 different digits.

But if you look, Additionally to this they are still Radar notes (Same serial reads forwards and backwards the same).

Some Collectors collect 2-Digit Notes (Entire serial is only 2-Digits but does not meet the criteria for a Radar Note)

Example:
1112121, 1122221, 1222222 (You get the idea)

I hope this helps you understand. I do suggest buying a copy of the Charlton Catalog as it also has in great detail all about radar notes and other "Special" Serial numbers at the back of the book.  :)


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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2007, 05:34:21 pm »

All the new $5's have the left serial number printed slightly darker than the right...so that is common.  

However, radars are 1 in 1000 so I'd say that note is worth keeping unless you're strapped for cash, and really don't like special numbers.  The note's book value isn't that much greater than face because of its condition..but not everyone keeps or sells according just to condition or book value. Its a personal decision you must make.  If you go to a bank and ask for a brick (1000 notes) you'd be lucky to find 1 radar. That's when you appreciate exactly how rare they are.  If you decide not to keep it than you might offer it for trade here for a note in similar condition...but of a different series/prefix, etc.  

As others here have recommended...just read through some of the various threads: learn and enjoy...

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2007, 06:48:07 pm »

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All the new $5's have the left serial number printed slightly darker than the right...so that is common.  

Agreed. You will also see that same digit slightly high or low. You see it ALL the time so do not get excited about it if you see one like that.  ::)

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