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Special => Test Notes => Topic started by: silviosi on November 16, 2013, 11:09:18 am
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Hello to anyone,
I have an 20$ 1979 AU with S/N 54106302562.
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Can some one tell me what S/N is this? In Charlton is specified 50, 51, 52 and 56
Thanks
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Hello to anyone,
I have an 20$ 1979 AU with S/N 54106302562.
Can some one tell me what S/N is this? In Charlton is specified 50, 51, 52 and 56
Thanks
Could you post a scan of the note?
I suppose it could be an error note where the second digit in the serial number machine rotated to "4", but this likely wouldn't happen with both sets of serial numbers.
Maybe someone clever took a pen and made "51" look like "54"? Can't tell...need to see a scan.
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Could you post a scan of the note?
I suppose it could be an error note where the second digit in the serial number machine rotated to "4", but this likely wouldn't happen with both sets of serial numbers.
That's possible, but very strange. Never heard of any 54... prefix before. Yes please provide a scan. A likely possibility is that its a fake $20 note. Could be an error, if so then only one side would be 54... and the other side would be either 50, 52 or 56.
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Maybe someone clever took a pen and made "51" look like "54"? Can't tell...need to see a scan.
Not possible. If it had been a 51, then it would be 5100.... as these were replacement notes so if someone did want to change the 1 to a 4 then the real serial number would be 511.... which just doesn't exist.
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Hi,
I am at the work now so this late evening I will scan the paper and posted.
it's sure is no mark to be change 1 in 4
Thanks ans see you late
Silviosi
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Sorry for delay,
Work is work. I post here the better scan I was able to do. Hope it is OK for you to analyze; if no I will ask a friend to do one much better.
Thanks,
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The scan is a little washed out, so it's tough to make any sort of determination. The writing at the top of the note is curious. It could be a Quebec license plate. Are you certain that the note itself is authentic?
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Could you post a scan of the front. What signatures are on this 20? Its very weird to see such a prefix. What worries me is that in 35 years its the first ever reported '54', its quite possible its a counterfeit.
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the face scan
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The face scan.
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And the S/N scan.
In my opinion it is real not a fake. I wait your expertise.
Best wishes for all!
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Very interesting indeed. What do you guys think???
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In my opinion I think its fake. When notes are copied some of the microprinting does not come through. For example when looking at the queens eyes in the scan the color is more of a solid blur instead of the micro rings seen in a real note. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
Manny
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In my opinion I think its fake. When notes are copied some of the microprinting does not come through. For example when looking at the queens eyes in the scan the color is more of a solid blur instead of the micro rings seen in a real note. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
Manny
Well I'll put my two penneth in and concur here, I think it's a fake too. Not only because I don't see the concentric rings when looking at the Queen's eyes, but I also don't see a single green planchette, which I agree could have been copied on a fake too, but the complete absence of any planchettes raises a red flag for me.
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Do you know the story about the pencil writing on the back of the note? It looks like a Quebec license plate number.
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Hello,
The story of this note it is:
One of my custom come to me and ask me to change him a bunch of old money and keep till will have money to pay back. Almost notes are 1954 series an a few in this series. Now after 6 months and no sign from him I look at them and this note attract me cause of the S/N.
the written on the note do not tell me nothing except "590 town of Quebec".
I am new in notes collecting. Start a few months ago when the bank teller give me 15 G-Unc 100$ BKE replacement notes and how I have around 5000$ flu cash on daily basic in my hands I start to look for and I find very exitant and more interesting then coins collecting.
That is I collect coins and antiquities for more then 30 years.
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I am leaning toward it being a high-quality counterfeit. Where a lot of lines come together, they appear quite blurry, especially in the Queen's hair. The lines in her hair should be individually defined even on a well circulated note.
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How about when you run your fingers over it, does it feel like the printing is raised or is it like a picture in a magazine?
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Unfortunately, it is very likely that you have a counterfeit $20. It is never really a good sign when you find an older note in which the prefix is not listed in charlton.
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One of my custom come to me and ask me to change him a bunch of old money and keep till will have money to pay back. Almost notes are 1954 series an a few in this series. Now after 6 months and no sign from him I look at them and this note attract me cause of the S/N.
Out of curiosity, do you even know if the 1954 notes you have are real or counterfeit.....any chance that this customer didn't return because he knew the cash was bogus?
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This note looks counterfeit to me...