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Vigilant
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« on: August 19, 2009, 08:55:14 pm »

Hello. I have three uncirculated $20 bills from the Sixties that each have an image of the Queen with her bra strap showing. I remember at the time, they told my parents that the government was taking those bills back up as fast as they could, to destroy them. Can you please give me an idea as to what these bills are worth? They have never been folded, and are still crisp and new.

Thanks a bunch.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 09:09:06 pm »

Can you post a pic of the note?
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 09:15:32 pm »

It would be difficult. I don't have a scanner. If that's what it will take tho, I will be glad to. The bra strap on her right side (left side of the image) is showing plain as day above her right shoulder.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 11:58:38 pm »

Has any other members seen or know more about these notes with that showing?  This is new to me, I have never heard of such a 20 dollar note!  Any scans would be great to see!  Hope you are able to post some soon..  Thanks


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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 01:00:45 am »

It could be interesting i think the queen in her younger years was kinda hot!!!

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 08:49:42 am »

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This is new to me, I have never heard of such a 20 dollar note!

Interesting if this is true, but I'm really starting to wonder how many of us collectors have actually been victim to dirty, cocaine laced banknotes after all of these years of searching, handling, and storing. Maybe there is an opportunity for a class action suit down the road ;D
I know for one thing...I am staring to see things that aren't there... ???



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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 11:23:49 am »

It's likely a minor ink error. Until an image is provided, that's about all that can be said for now.

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 09:33:50 pm »

No, it's not an ink error. All three bills are identical. And no, I'm not a crackhead with a scam, but I understand your skepticism.

Will it cause any damage to the note if I have it scanned?

It may take me a few days to get this done due to my aging parents, but as long as it will not damage the note, I have no problem with posting a scan when time allows.

Thanks for all the replies.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 09:47:45 pm »

Nobody suggested you were a "crackhead with a scam." There was one person mentioning cocaine-laced banknotes, but that was in reference to this thread, not your post. As with any newly discovered difference in the appearance of a banknote (I chose my words carefully there), it has to be seen before it can be positively identified as being an error, a printing variety, dirt, pen ink, vandalism, etc.

Scanning a note will not damage it (unless you mishandle it of course, but the act of scanning alone will not cause damage).

I am interested in seeing the scan once you can get it.

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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 03:56:29 pm »

If you have access to a digital camera,  that is the best, and easiest, method for capturing pictures of bank notes to display on this forum. Otherwise a copier would be your only other alternative and neither method will do any harm to your notes :).
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 02:13:39 pm »

I need to get a better digital camera. I can see that now. The image is a bit blurred, but you can see the bra strap on her right side showing. I suspect that it is in fact her bra strap showing, and that it was not noticed prior to the photo being taken. I can only imagine the fuss that followed the printing and distribution of these bills!

The bills are marked 'Ottawa 1969", if that helps.

Thanks again.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 02:15:56 pm »

Well, looks like it will not open in the post. Please, PM me with an email address if you would like to see it. Again, included on each bill are the words 'Ottawa 1969'.

Thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2009, 02:20:05 pm »

Attachments are not working properly at this time (see this thread). Use imageshack in the meantime. For instructions, see this thread.

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2009, 08:41:59 pm »

Thanks. Okay, let's try this.

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2009, 11:36:24 pm »

Do you have any other 1969 20s or just the three "bra strap" notes.  If you happen to find another ratty old 1969 20 you may be shocked to find it also has a bra strap showing.
Some people might suggest it is merely a portion of her gown that appears bunched up as it drapes over her shoulder.

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2009, 12:54:32 am »

I have heard that before, but if the image were more clear, you would see that it is definitely her bra strap showing.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2009, 02:02:57 am »

Is this what you're referring to?

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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2009, 09:41:15 am »

Yes, what you have outlined in red is it exactly.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2009, 01:58:29 pm »

Well then, every single $1, $2 and $20 note from the multicoloured series (that means over 8.1 billion notes) shows this "bra strap". It is NOT a bra strap, as nearly any woman should be able to confirm, but merely a fold of fabric in the Queen's dress.

Sorry, but the notes you have are perfectly normal.

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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2009, 08:19:29 pm »

Well, thanks for letting me know. Any idea as to what they are worth?
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2009, 09:01:27 pm »

Well, thanks for letting me know. Any idea as to what they are worth?

Depending on condition and serial number, they could be worth anywhere from $20 to $20,000. Assuming the ones you have are in nearly perfect condition (AU), and are the most common, a reasonable estimate would be $35-40 per note.

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 10:25:31 pm »

Again, I appreciate your help very much. How would one go about finding out if it is worth something closer to $20,000? Serial number prefix? Again, they were minted in Ottawa if that makes a difference.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2009, 10:29:02 pm »

Serial number and an expert opinion on grading/condition.

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2009, 10:35:25 pm »

Again, I appreciate your help very much. How would one go about finding out if it is worth something closer to $20,000? Serial number prefix? Again, they were minted in Ottawa if that makes a difference.

Post the serial number or buy the Charlton book.


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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2009, 11:07:02 pm »

EB0954875

EB0954886

EB0954887

EB0954898

Turns out I had four, not three. I hate it when that happens....

Thanks again for your help.

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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 02:05:23 pm »

Please, can anyone help me on this? Serial numbers are posted above.

Thanks.
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2009, 02:20:04 pm »

These notes are by signed Beattie/Rasminsky and are very common and would be worth about $35-$40 each in near perfect condition.

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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 02:51:18 pm »

Thanks for your help.
 

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