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Title: Missing circles
Post by: Tommy6301 on August 28, 2008, 02:08:49 am
Hi.forum members.

i have some of $10 printed 2002 that i noticed the inner circles and outer circles are
missing in the orange pattern ,is this a very common errors ? please advised
here is a scan

(http://i35.tinypic.com/dzdogy.jpg)
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: JB-2007 on August 28, 2008, 06:40:14 am
This occured in the 2001 $10 series notes on some notes between FEB-FEN. It is not known how rare they are. There is a write-up about this in the charlton cat. 21st ed. on p.336 if you have a copy of the book.
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: BWJM on August 28, 2008, 07:55:13 am
There have been a few articles in the CPMS newsletter about this subject over the last 6 years or so.
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: starman on August 28, 2008, 01:07:23 pm
OK, so what am I missing as I look at that scan?
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: Dr.Bill on August 28, 2008, 01:18:33 pm
You are not missing anything as this is a scan of a normal note.

This is not a missing circle note!

In missing circle notes, the inner circle is missing on the note.
This is usually seen near the bottom left of the orange strip.

Missing circle notes  have serial numbers ending in 500 - 999.
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: Tommy6301 on August 28, 2008, 02:41:22 pm
You are not missing anything as this is a scan of a normal note.

This is not a missing circle note!

In missing circle notes, the inner circle is missing on the note.
This is usually seen near the bottom left of the orange strip.

Missing circle notes  have serial numbers ending in 500 - 999.

it  seem to be that the orange pattern is narrower compare with a normal pattern
please make a compared for this
thank you
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: Seth on August 28, 2008, 04:43:47 pm
It's all explained, with scans, on the main site (Remember the main site?)   ;)

http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/English/BoC/circles.htm
Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: copperpete on August 28, 2008, 04:52:27 pm
In reality, we cannot tell by looking at the note if it's a missing circle variety, because it's not cut at left enough to let see the missing circle.  But I can tell you that even if it was the case, this note cannot belong to the missing circle variety because if I read well, the front position number is 68 (printed by BAI, prefix beginning by B).  And all the missing circle position numbers are below 50 (printed by CBN, prefix begining by F).  The plate position # bearing the missing circle are:  11, 12, 19, 25, 27, 38, 43, 45, 46, 48.

Here a scan of the missing circle variety, and an a rarer sub-variety:  2 missing circles.

Remark:  One MUST see the missing circle, at least apart of it sufficiciently to be sure.  The position number by itself is not enough.

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Title: Re: Missing circles
Post by: starman on August 28, 2008, 06:03:05 pm
Thank you everyone, now I know what i'm looking at.