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Title: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: Hunter on July 30, 2010, 10:30:16 pm
     I like this note I just got but there are some major distractions and I’m wondering how they affect the grade. What I'm most concerned about is the signature’s ink has soaked through and can be seen on the back and that the centre fold has cracked and come apart halfway.

Sorry that the scans are sideways.

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Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: Philippe_B on July 31, 2010, 11:25:30 am
It looks like a pressed VF to me.
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: alvin5454 on July 31, 2010, 12:52:41 pm
The signature has not soaked through. It is the result of offset ink from the heavy application from the note above. It is not a problem.
The design missing on the fold is another story. It takes the grade down from VF to fine, although the note is still attractive. See Charlton catalogue page xvii for the definition of VF. Part 3: The note may have up for four major creases or folds with broken paper fibres but no design loss in the creases.
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: Hunter on July 31, 2010, 02:49:03 pm
Would it fall under the same category of more modern notes and be considered an Offset Signature Error?  ;)
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: mmars on July 31, 2010, 04:33:43 pm
[edit]Post removed because I am purposely lying by omission ha ha hahahahaha - mmars[/edit]
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: alvin5454 on July 31, 2010, 06:52:34 pm
Hunter:
It's less of an error issue with older, manuscript signatures because they were hand-signed and the amount of ink on the pen varied greatly.
If one of the women employed to sign the notes dipped the pen in the inkwell too long, it resulted in heavy inking, which could have blotted on to the back of the next sheet of notes....
I don't think the ink would have soaked through the note.
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: Hunter on July 31, 2010, 07:57:07 pm
     The smaller and darker part of the ink on the back doesn’t line up with the signature on the front at all but the more faded part does perfectly. So maybe what’s on the back is a little bit of both a transfer and a stain from the signature coming through. It’s too bad about the tear but I only paid $100 for it and after comparing it with similar items and their scary grading and high prices I’m ok with it.
Thanks
Title: Re: I could use some help grading a $1 Issue - 1898
Post by: Wizard1 on July 31, 2010, 09:18:55 pm
     The smaller and darker part of the ink on the back doesn’t line up with the signature on the front at all but the more faded part does perfectly. So maybe what’s on the back is a little bit of both a transfer and a stain from the signature coming through. It’s too bad about the tear but I only paid $100 for it and after comparing it with similar items and their scary grading and high prices I’m ok with it.
Thanks


Damn it.. so it was YOU!..... I was about to buy it now on ebay for my set but you beat me to the punch. Jks..... at least it was one of us that got it.... cheers.  ;D