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Highs and Lows => Two Dollar High/Lows => Topic started by: jonathan on December 09, 2004, 11:38:50 pm

Title: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: jonathan on December 09, 2004, 11:38:50 pm: I remember back in the early 1990's, after the BBP's were issued, I remember seeing some serial numbers on $2 notes with a large B on one side of the prefix and a small B on the other side. These prefixes were in the BG* series. Some examples of these include BGJ through BGR, maybe a little higher. I remember having BGJ, BGM, BGP, maybe BGR with the big B on one side. A strong majority of those prefixes had a small B on both sides.

If anybody has any prefixes in the BG*'s with a small B and a large B on each side, or a large B on both sides of the serial number, please post any new finds on this topic. :)

Happy Hunting! :)

Jonathan ;)
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on December 10, 2004, 12:40:47 am: What two sides are there on a prefix such as BGM?

To the best of my knowledge, there is no "Large B/Small B" varieties on the BGx series. If you have examples of what you're trying to refer to, please post a scan so that everyone else can have some clue as to what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on February 27, 2005, 10:13:25 pm: Hi collectors,

I would like to discuss about a thinks on some prefix $2 1986 I found. When the prefix BBA to BBP was printed they got large B and in BBP prefix they changed it into a small B. But later in other prefix the series BG? I found in BGJ and BJP (its collectors give me the information for the BJP). Some collectors found a large B at left or right or both side. I got a BGJ with large B both side and another BGJ large B at the right side. They are circulated but I'm sure no dealer are interested about that and when I go to the next show I'll check in the inventory and I hope I'll found some uncirculated. Do you think in future this "error" are taking value and did the charlton catalogue going to insert this variety in the catalogue? What are the prefix who the people found this "error"? ??? ???
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on February 27, 2005, 10:16:43 pm: Hi collectors,
This is my other scan of my second $2 with only one large B.
:-/
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on February 27, 2005, 11:07:33 pm: I suppose I stand corrected.

It seems that evidently there is a changeover in BGJ. In the interests of narrowing down this changeover, I'll make a list with the new information.

In fact, I think what I might do is consolidate the BBP/BBX and BGJ lists into one, and simply keep the two numbers that are closest to the perceived changeover. Before I make this change, I'll leave an opportunity for comments now.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on February 27, 2005, 11:39:33 pm: I checked my pile of circulated $2 spenders and found BGJ 3226048, lowering the Big B low just a hair.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: jonathan on February 27, 2005, 11:48:09 pm: If anybody on the forum has any other BG* $2 prefixes with one or two "large B's" in them, is it possible to provide a scan of the serial number?

Also, on February 27, 2005, Cbeaulieu wrote:
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...I found in BGJ and BJP (its collectors give me the information for the BJP).

:o You mean to say that there are reports of the $100 prefix BJP with the big B variety?! :o Or do you mean BGP? ??? Some people get confused with their J's and G's sometimes! ::)

By the way, nice 2-digit radar that BGJ 1117111... ::)

Bye ~~Fore~~ For Now ;D , Jonathan ;)
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: bluenoser on February 28, 2005, 03:28:17 pm: I have the complete BG series and the only one I have with the 2 different size B's is the BGJ prefix. Small on the left and large on the right
BGJ 2074207
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on March 06, 2005, 12:38:36 am: Hi collectors,
I think this new kind of"error"will be in the next Charleton catalogue and after that all the people will check in the 2$ 1986 stock if they found it!I went to nuphilex show this week end at Mtl and I checked all the dealers 2$ stock,I can confirm no dealer take attention of that.A dealer have two shoes box full of 2$1986 it take 1 hour and half to past throw(the grade of the 2$ are between UNC and EF).I founded BBP prefix large B and small B in uncirculation condition and the dealer did not suspect they were more expensive than the regular one,I paid 20$ for the both 2$. And I founded BGJ with large B at the right side(AU) and I think that I found a new prefix with large B who nobody talk about their existence in this prefix. Two BGL in sequense in AU condition with large B at the right side. I think it's gone a be the same things for the 20$ without back plate number and some variety was more scarce than the others.Take advace before they will be listed because you'll gone a pay more than now. I appreciate if other collectors will communicate his discovery.I will thanks the CPMS menber BWJM who put my discovery in his topic. ;D
See the next topic for the scan.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on March 06, 2005, 12:47:44 am: This is the scan.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on March 06, 2005, 12:55:30 pm: Are there BGL notes with two small Bs? or are they all large Bs (on the left)?
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: jonathan on March 06, 2005, 07:18:40 pm: Yes, I am pretty certain that there are BGL notes with two small B's. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, there are some BGJ notes with two small B's (just comes from almost 23 years of experience observing serial numbers on Canadian banknotes ;D).

If anybody has any BGJ or BGL notes with two small B's, could you please post a scan of the note? :)

Thanks, Jonathan ;)
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on September 02, 2005, 08:07:46 pm: Hi collectors,
I found two 2$ in sequence with the prefix BGL without large ''B''.The serial number are:BGL9897758 and 9897759.If anyone have information,let it know to help us to find the range of the variety of large ''B''????When it begin,when it finish???
Thank you all!!
Claude
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on October 26, 2005, 01:01:07 pm: Hi,
I found this banknote on e-bay and it have two small ''B''.The higher serial number in BGJ with large ''B'' it's 3665052 and this the serial number without large ''B'' 5717996,the difference it's 2052944.Where the range of large ''B'' finish?Between BGJ3665052 and BGJ5717996.If you have other information let me.Thank you.
Claude
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on March 05, 2006, 05:31:52 pm: Hi collectors,
   This is my last discovery about large ''B'' in the prefix BGJ.In the past I let information about the prefix I found:

   BGJ1117111 two large''B''
   BGJ3665052 one large ''B''(right)
This is the two new large ''B'' I found in the show this week-end at Mtl.(Nuphilex):
   BGJ0004138 one large ''B''(right)
   BGJ0845290 one large ''B''(right)

The dealer do not take attention about this variety and he sold me this notes like a regular one.A c.p.m.s. member have:

   BGJ0806468 one large ''B''(right)
   BGJ2074207 one large ''B''(right)

This prefix with one large ''B''.are only at the right??? :-/
And the large ''B'' at the left was seen only on BGL and BGP prefix??? :-?

I have a list about the BG? prefix without large ''B'' I found at different show or on e-bay or with other collectors on this site since one year.If someone have information or discovery to let us know about this variety it will be apreciated.Specially me. ;)

You can contact me by e-mail:cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on March 05, 2006, 05:40:36 pm: Hi,
This is the scan of the two large ''B''. ;)
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on March 05, 2006, 07:25:00 pm: All the known notes with big or small Bs are found here:
http://wiki.bwjm.ca/index.php?title=Big_B_Small_B_Registry
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on July 23, 2006, 02:02:50 pm: Hi,
   I went to the CNA,and I found another large''B'':
   BGJ:0007497(96)-1532267(66) with one large''B'' at the right side.
   If I check the list:
   Prefix    Serial    Variety    Comments
BGJ 0000000 Confirmed Endpoint
BGJ 0004138 Small/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 0644000 Small/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 0806468 Small/Big CPMS Newsletter, June 1998
BGJ 0845290 Small/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 0999999 Small/Big Possible Endpoint?

BGJ 1000000 Big/Big Possible Endpoint?
BGJ 1117111 Big/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 1918536 Big/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 1999999 Big/Big Possible Endpoint?

BGJ 2000000 Small/Big Possible Endpoint?
BGJ 2074207 Small/Big Private Collection (bluenoser)
BGJ 3665052 Small/Big Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 4999999 Small/Big Possible Endpoint?

BGJ 5000000 Small/Small Possible Endpoint?
BGJ 5717996 Small/Small Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 8107936 Small/Small Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 8184257 Small/Small Private Collection (Cbeaulieu)
BGJ 9999999 Confirmed Endpoint

   At the BGJ with two large''B'' the range begin at 1000000 and maybe stop at 2000000.I found notes with one large''B'' at 1532266-67,I think the variety with two large''B'' will be more scarce???Is this possible to found the range of that variety with one or two large''B''??And I also found on e-bay maybe the higher BGJ with one large''B''(BGJ3787822).
   About the BGP prefix, this is the serial number with one large''B''I found:
   BGP:1430000-1936000-6836926 large''B'' at left side
   And this is the BGP without large''B'' I found:
   BGP:0092000-0304483-1065917-2011575-9017448(55)
   What is the possible range or how much of those variety exist???
   Did someone can help me or have some notes with this variety,just let me know?Thanks.
   Claude
   cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on November 05, 2006, 08:53:16 pm: Hi collectors,
   I went to nuphilex friday at the opening.This is my last discovery in the variety''big B in BG prefix''.For now we have large''B'' in BGJ,BGL and BGP prefix.I found a new prefix with large''B'' at the left in BGR prefix.The serial number is BGR1716826.In my list who I report all BG prefix I found in BG prefix with and without large''B'' I have BGR 1715784 without large ''B'',it's a difference of 1042 notes and the near I have after the large''B'' I found it's 4461854.I also have BGR 1067992 without large ''B''.How much or what is the possible range of this variety?If you have a BG prefix with and without large ''B'' it will be apreciate if you contact me to let me information.This is my e-mail address:

   cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
   Thank you,
   Claude
   This is the scan of my BGR large''B'':

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Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: sudzee on October 14, 2007, 06:06:29 pm: A few more notes for the list.

Gary
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on October 15, 2007, 07:35:07 pm: Hi Gary,
Thank you to taking time on this variety,I hope others collectors will share their discovery on this site in the futur :o .It will be apreciate.
Claude
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on March 10, 2008, 08:12:51 pm: Hi,
I found 2$ BGJ with two large ''B'' between two range with one large ''B''.The near BGJ with one large ''B'' it's 0644000(diff. of 75302),the two large''B'' 0719302 and the next I found with one large ''B'' it's 0806468(diff. of 88166).Is this possible to found the range of the one large''B'' and two large''B''?If someone can help me it will be apreciate.
Claude
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: BWJM on March 11, 2008, 12:43:41 am: I've got BGJ 1123287 with one large B.
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: Cbeaulieu on September 29, 2008, 09:06:49 pm: Hi,
This the updated for the 2$ 1986 with large''B'' in prefix BGJ:

BGJ 0004138 small/big
BGJ 0007496-97 small/big
BGJ 0095395-96 small/big
BGJ 0644000 small/big
BGJ 0719302 big/big
BGJ 0806468 small/big
BGJ 0845290 small/big
BGJ 0994676 big/big
BGJ 0998403 big/big
BGJ 1117111 big/big
BGJ 1123287 small/big
BGJ 1357874 big/big
BGJ 1419495-97 big/big
BGJ 1462354 small/big
BGJ 1532266 small/big
BGJ 1918000 big/big
BGJ 2074207 small/big
BGJ 2190305 big/big
BGJ 2331178 big/big
BGJ 2852955 big/big
BGJ 2863673 small/big
BGJ 2892207 small/big
BGJ 3106580 small/big
BGJ 3388489 small/big
BGJ 3443500 small/big
BGJ 3665052 small/big
BGJ 3764410 small/big
BGJ 3787820-22 small/big
BGJ 4613306-94 The near serial number I found with two small ''B''.
I hope in futur and with more information will be able to found the possibility of the several range it have??Do not be affraid to let me new information about that!Thank you.
Claude
cbeaulieu1@videotron.ca
Title: Re: Big B in BG* Prefixes?
Post by: sebasticon76 on July 07, 2016, 10:08:10 pm: Today i have buy 2$ 1986 BGM with large B on the left side and small B right side.
Serial number BGM 3216142

I not found this prefixe on the listing
http://wiki.cdnpapermoney.com/index.php?title=Big_B_Small_B_Register