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Special => Error Notes => Topic started by: komenda on March 02, 2005, 09:48:51 pm

Title: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: komenda on March 02, 2005, 09:48:51 pm
im new to banknote collecting and to this site and was wondering if this is an error

im reffering to the circles on the left thanks !


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Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: Skylark on March 02, 2005, 10:12:42 pm
yes but the condition and the top right squiggle decreases its value however ive never seen it before so rarity could increse its value to more than $10.
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: BWJM on March 02, 2005, 10:17:07 pm
Actually, I'd be willing to bet the note is counterfeit.  What is the serial number on it?

May I offer a guess that the serial number starts with WER?
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: sudzee on March 02, 2005, 10:27:10 pm
I second that one Brent.
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: komenda on March 02, 2005, 10:30:26 pm
the serial number is PKR5856890

Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: sudzee on March 02, 2005, 10:34:46 pm
The prefix confirms that it is a counterfeit note.
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: BWJM on March 02, 2005, 10:46:11 pm
Definitely a counterfeit. Mail it to me so I can add it to my collection! ;D
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: Skylark on March 02, 2005, 11:19:43 pm
any idea how that error occured?
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: BWJM on March 02, 2005, 11:25:08 pm
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any idea how that error occured?

First of all, it's not an error.  It is a counterfeit note.  I have one that has the same "doubling up" on the left edge, including the same plate number.  Someone just did a crappy job when they copied thei $10.  I'd love to add that to my collection ;)
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: komenda on March 03, 2005, 12:24:22 am
so what should i do with the note now, puting it back into circulation wouldnt be right and if i gave it to the bank then i would be losing 10 dollars even though technicaly its not 10 dollars ?
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: Skylark on March 03, 2005, 12:38:57 am
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so what should i do with the note now, puting it back into circulation wouldnt be right and if i gave it to the bank then i would be losing 10 dollars even though technicaly its not 10 dollars ?

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Mail it to me so I can add it to my collection!
Sounds like a good option if you charge $10 for it ;)
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: funky_phantom on March 03, 2005, 12:42:08 am
In cases where I have obtained a counterfeit note from an ATM machine, (same bank twice), I simply notified the bank the next day and they agreed to exchange it for a new one each time.( I almost think they were getting suspicous) You will be required to provide details of the transaction that you received it in. Date, time, teller/machine receipt if kept. Finally you will be asked to provide name, address, phone number. So if you don't want it, you can get your $10.00 dollars. Just make sure whoever agrees to take this note off your hands is aware that the bill is a counterfeit note first.
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: BWJM on March 03, 2005, 12:47:10 am
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Sounds like a good option if you charge $10 for it ;)

Hey!  Actually, doing so would be illegal.

Your LEGAL options are:
- Turn the note in to your local police
- Keep it
- Mail it to me so I can use it to help teach others about spotting fakes.

I recommend the last option.  (Seriously!)
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: Skylark on March 03, 2005, 03:02:45 am
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Your LEGAL options are:
- Turn the note in to your local police
- Keep it
- Mail it to me so I can use it to help teach others about spotting fakes.
Not quite ;D
Your LEGAL options are:
- Turn the note in to your local police

Check out page 16 of this little handy dandy booklet (http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/education/10-20-50-100_jour_leaflet.pdf)

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Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: JB-2007 on March 03, 2005, 03:20:44 am
Actually i noticed right away that its counterfeit. Just look on the bottom left corner. The plate number was printed twice.  
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: BWJM on March 03, 2005, 11:28:29 am
@ JB-2005: That was the source of the question as to how the alleged "error" occurred.

@ Skylark: Check the actual legislation.  Your reference isn't entirely accurate.  It is merely what the police and the Bank of Canada WANT you to do.

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Section 457 of the Criminal Code of Canada states:
  • No person shall make, publish, print, execute, issue, distribute or circulate, including by electronic or computer-assisted means, anything in the likeness of
    • a current bank note; or
    • an obligation or a security of a government or bank.
  • Subsection (1) does not apply to
    • the Bank of Canada or its employees when they are carrying out their duties;
    • the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) or its members or employees when they are carrying out their duties; or
    • any person acting under a contract or licence from the Bank of Canada or Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP).
  • A person who contravenes subsection (1) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
  • No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (3) in relation to the printed likeness of a Canadian bank note if it is established that the length or width of the likeness is less than three-fourths or greater than one-and-one-half times the length or width, as the case may be, of the bank note and
    • the likeness is in black and white only; or
    • the likeness of the bank note appears on only one side of the likeness.
Title: Re: would this be considered an error ?
Post by: komenda on March 03, 2005, 04:48:38 pm
well the notes gone now my mother confiscated it and took it directly to the bank