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General => The Trading Post => Topic started by: Archey80 on February 08, 2021, 04:53:51 pm
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Working on a my binary collection. I've attached what I have, if you have any that you are willing to part with PM me.
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Wow very nice
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A couple of those look familiar. ;)
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Wow very nice
- I agree! Lovely set. Congrats!
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those are some beauties. I also collect Binary notes, thanks for sharing
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Awesome set, congratulations ! 8)
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Still looking for Binary notes if anyone has come across any, recently picked these up.
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Nice additions! I don't know about you but I have found Million # notes really tough to find (like your $20).
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Whatever price Archey is paying I will pay more. ;)
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Nice '79 version
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Awesome notes if you’re selling PM me
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Nice '79 version
-Wow! Very nice. Are they yours? Great set.
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yes those are mine, I haven't seen another 79 set like them so far.
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yes those are mine, I haven't seen another 79 set like them so far.
- likewise, that's why I was so impressed.
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Still looking just added this beauty
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very nice, where did you pick that up?
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-I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks hoping for a gem grading, I got it at the TNC auction a few weeks ago.
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{attach:39100}New acquisition
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Just picked up this 2 digit radar / Binary
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nice
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A new addition, still on the hunt for more.
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new note for me
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Great find!
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Both notes are nice (tough numbers to find).
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Recently added these 2
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nice finds Archey
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Still looking if anyone is selling, just added this one to the collection.
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New for me
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Nice one!
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Yes, nice bill ! ;)
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A bit rough but new to me
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Any binary note is a great add! Nice pick up
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I like having someone else appreciate these notes Archey. I’ll be waiting for your next find.
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New
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New
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Nice one! I just picked up this one up
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New for me
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Wow that $2 is awesome, congrats
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Wow that $2 is awesome, congrats
- I agree. I also like the "WE" note plus the AAM0000111. They're shaping up to be some nice binary sets guys!
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I think Archey and I have one of the most popular posts running, besides Dean's finds. :D
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Agreed, glad others enjoy the posts as I enjoy deans finds they always amaze me.
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This thread & the notes you've posted brilliantly illustrate why it is so vital (& worthy) to have a few strict collector goals. So many collectors fret & worry about where their next note is going to come from (& for FV or dirt cheap). I've been guilty of this myself, so trust me folks I'm not judging anybody: its just often how we fall into this hobby. Luckily, about 15 years ago, I got a bit disciplined & started to weed out regular issue & started to focus only on special numbers, change-overs & replacements. I could still narrow down my focus some more.
Your "binary" serial number goal is very interesting & I think most of us enjoy the 'eye candy' serials posted.
Keep it going (no pressure!) :D
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New
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Picked up these 2 recently.
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Picked up these 2 recently.
Very nice Archey!
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A recent find
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Sweet pair!
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Recent find. Binary / Radar / Rotator.
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Not sure I'd agree with rotator, just due to the serifs, but a fabulous note regardless.
Very nice find.
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That's a WOW note regardless of number. I've rarely seen any.
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WOW is right, what a note! ???
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WOW is right, what a note! ???
Arthur, you can add this note to your impressive collection of binary notes.
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Y6WBE/canada-bank-of-canada-500-dollars-1935-bc-17-pmg-very-fine-20-binary-radar-rotator-sn (https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Y6WBE/canada-bank-of-canada-500-dollars-1935-bc-17-pmg-very-fine-20-binary-radar-rotator-sn)
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Okay, I'll bite: who owns that trophy note?
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No quite as nice at the $500 note but just added this Binary/2 digit Radar to the collection, I have the matching Bird $5 as well
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I am not keeping up to Archie but did find this one.
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I am not keeping up to Archie but did find this one.
Way to go!
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The 1935 $500 note sold for $102,000 USD
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The 1935 $500 note sold for $102,000 USD
-Thanks for the update. I followed that $500 link to the "Stacks & Bowers" auction just recently (thanks Canada-banknotes)! Considering their lofty estimates, the price seemed pretty fair for such a scarce trophy note (seldom seen denomination with decent eye appeal & very special #). I doubt that note would have even surfaced if there wasn't such a buying frenzy for the past 2 years of Covid cabin-fever which has suddenly cooled down dramatically with our ballistic inflation.
But I must say, even if I had mucho "donairo" to drop, I doubt I'd be bidding for tough notes on S&B. I cannot abide their archaic online bidding platform & they way they list. Its not as bad as Lyn Knight's site but it must be a close 2nd!
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I also thought the price was low considering how scare the $500 note is. I wonder if it would've brought more at a Canadian auction house. Agreed it was rather complicated to figure out the sold price but after creating an account and playing around I figured it out. Will be interesting to see what prices are like at the Geoffrey Bell auction this weekend.
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I also thought the price was low considering how scare the $500 note is. I wonder if it would've brought more at a Canadian auction house. Agreed it was rather complicated to figure out the sold price but after creating an account and playing around I figured it out. Will be interesting to see what prices are like at the Geoffrey Bell auction this weekend.
-yes, a bit low, if you asked me (why I wrote "fair" meaning a good deal for the collector). You may be right: CDN collectors might be turned off with the S&B auction, the customs clearance (extortion at the border) & calculating the exchange rate.
However, should a trophy note like that appear here, you've got 13-15% tax. In fact, I was looking at the taxes, 20% B.P. + CC/payment fees for Sept 30th (tomorrow's) auction & it seems pretty prohibitive (at least in my books).
It made me wonder who shows up to pick up & to pay in cash?
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The price was low for sure but whoever is buying this at this price level is certainly not paying 15% tax and is most certainly not paying by credit card. I don't think there is any reason to think that the price would have been higher in a Canadian auction. I think the opposite. This note screams with international appeal.
At this level, the grade is the only important factor. The serial number is intriguing but won't affect the price in the least. What caused the price to be low is that no less than five of these have traded in the past 3-4 years, with several still "available" at this very moment to anyone willing to pay the price, most of those being in higher grades.
We are also in the middle of a major economic crisis which will affect the price of all commodities. Prices, especially of high-end material will take a beating, at least in the short term until the current uncertainties get sorted out.
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At this level, the grade is the only important factor. The serial number is intriguing but won't affect the price in the least. What caused the price to be low is that no less than five of these have traded in the past 3-4 years, with several still "available" at this very moment to anyone willing to pay the price, most of those being in higher grades.
We are also in the middle of a major economic crisis which will affect the price of all commodities. Prices, especially of high-end material will take a beating, at least in the short term until the current uncertainties get sorted out.
-interesting: I have not been keeping track of the number of $500 that have been offered (nor available). Yes, it appears that high-end collector material will be attained at much lower prices until global affairs, climate change, etc, get better sorted out. At this point, I would expect less high end stuff to be offered on the block.
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PMG recognizes "rotators" with the "1" digit. Charlton does not. At the very least, we can all agree that it's a radar note, I think.
Could it be that PMG doesn't designate serial numbers with only 5 digits?? Or it may be a situation where they will do it when asked but not automatically.
At some point it gets a little ridiculous. What if there were only 4 digits or 3 digits? Is "171" a radar or "2345" a ladder? Technically, yes. But who cares at that point?
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Got the 2023 catalog today. It’s disappointing they haven’t changed the binary page at all over the last ten years. The popularity is there.
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I'm not surprised to hear that based on what others have written about the 2023 book. I'm certainly glad I didn't order one as it sounds like there isn't any point. Here's to hoping for 2024 :'( ::)
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The publishers of this guide MUST know that hobbyists rely on the Charlton Guide for accurate information provided within it's pages, and all I can say is ... it's disgusting that they are ignoring this fact, and clearly do not feel any "responsibility" to produce a good and accurate product. Want my increased price paid for a lower quality book -- money back!!!
-I think you're overreacting a tad. The guide (& remember it is a "guide" aimed to help collectors form an opinion on "what its approximately worth") will never be that accurate (or precise) for the most recent series. It's just "the nature of the beast." Collectors look at the "TRENDS" for that kind of up-to-date info. (Or pay a subscription fee for "Track & Price")
They catalogues are published & released far too early IMO. You guys know me- I've been complaining about the gross oversight of the M-C FTH $10 for years but overall, the Charlton guide is my "bible" which is pretty darn helpful the farther you go back. They're still slow at picking up on the popularity of special numbers but that's to be expected. MOST guides normally follow trends "well after" the trend has been established.
[For example the opposite mentality would be- should catalogues bump up QEII note estimates simply b/c HM passed away & newbies (or those who lapsed into inactivity) have suddenly become keen on her notes?]. I should think not. It is better that catalogues err on the side of caution/conservative grading/predictions (rather than loose grading & speculative hyperbole over X note).
When it comes to the most recent released series (& prefixes) of almost any nation, you can pretty much bet that the catalogue info will be fairly DATED. One shouldn't be expecting up-to-date "Trends" analysis (to be sure).
You are much better off consulting online resources for recent series (& even special numbers). I try to give a weekly analysis on my NC site:
https://sites.google.com/view/notaphilycculture/collecting-banknotes (https://sites.google.com/view/notaphilycculture/collecting-banknotes) but you may wish to go for a "track & price" algorithm for more accurate predictions.
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Comments and constructive criticism regarding the Charlton catalogue are best directed at the publisher and the editor.
While I appreciate, understand and sympathize with your frustrations, ranting about them here is unlikely to effect any positive change on the matter.
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New find
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1973 low serial
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Great finds! Haven’t seen any lately & I'm still waiting to find my first in circulation ::)
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Well it took many many years but I finally found my first binary in the wild.
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Nice find Archey80! :)
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Just picked up this Replacement & Binary note!