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Special => Error Notes => Topic started by: Archey80 on November 05, 2006, 11:52:28 am

Title: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Archey80 on November 05, 2006, 11:52:28 am
WOW can this be real!  :o it looks like it? What do you think?

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Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: happy_philosopher on November 05, 2006, 12:45:02 pm
Archey, I had a 1954 $1 like this that looked fairly real but when you held it up to the light you could see some red residue leftover from the serial number. There must be some chemicals that will remove the serial number without affecting the rest of the note. I'd be very careful about buying a note like this unless you can examine it up close. And even then, I'd be suspicious of any note that isn't at least in AU/Unc condition since I think it would be very hard to remove the serial number without affecting the quality of the paper somewhat...
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: canada-banknotes on November 05, 2006, 01:07:27 pm

I would tend to agree.  The Charlton catalogue specifically states:

"Serial numbers are known to have been removed with the intention to deceive collectors.  Circulated notes, particularly, lacking serial numbers need to be authenticated."

I have seen many circulated 1954 notes in dealer cases with missing serial numbers that upon close inspection show impressions of the serial numbers that were chemically removed.

...Arthur
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: BWJM on November 05, 2006, 05:00:45 pm
The area of the serial numbers also appears faded, indicating that perhaps something was done there. Normally the tint across that part should be fairly even with the rest of the note.
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Punkys Dad on November 05, 2006, 05:45:43 pm
$51.15 I'm was making a modest starting bid when I came across that same warning in the Catalog too. I'll agree with BW that the background where the numbers should be seems lighter even compared to the my well-worn 1937 one's (around VG-F condition). I blew the picture up but I found it hard to conclude if there was any tampering. Therefore I'll spare myself selling something else to finance it. If I were newbie collector problematic notes would turn me off, especially in the area of errors When the time comes I'll stick to reputable members or dealers and it'll be worth the extra time and expense.
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Tom on November 05, 2006, 05:51:28 pm
I like the "From a large estate recently purchased" and the guy has 6 notes up in 2 lots.  That seems like a small estate to me.

Tom

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Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Archey80 on November 12, 2006, 08:12:53 pm
Sold for $513 Canadaian !  :-?

Arthur
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Punkys Dad on November 12, 2006, 11:12:53 pm
Oh man, I just hope it's the real thing. The seller seems willing to offer a satisfaction guarantee according to the description.
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: canadianpaper on November 13, 2006, 04:03:12 pm
I would tend to pass on this item - especially for that price without being able to view the note. Good luck to the winner!
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: emsteph on March 09, 2007, 11:44:53 pm
An Osbourne to boot...
Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: Archey80 on April 30, 2007, 02:00:24 pm
here is a  second note looks the same....

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Title: Re: 1937 $1 Missing serial number
Post by: walktothewater on April 30, 2007, 07:51:22 pm
The microprinting looks like its been erased where the SN should be.  Awful shame to see a perfectly good Osborne note spoiled like that!