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General => General Forum Comments => Topic started by: canada on August 30, 2007, 12:34:40 pm
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I have close sources in Ottawa that tell me that the end of our Canadian currency is fast approaching. Some say it will be replaced by the "Amero" in the next 3-5 years. It will be simular to the Euro but instead include Canada, Mexico and the U.S into one single currency. That means new notes will be issued.
How will this affect our CPM hobby?
Will our collections be worthless from a face value standpoint?
Will our collections be worth more?
How do we prepare for this from a collectors standpoint? Did the old paper money from other E.U. nations appreciate after the introduction of the Euro?
ect.
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collector notes will always retain their value
Could I please get this in writing and notorized for my personal files please?
I will pay for the expresspot once it is completed ;D
FRIEDSQUID
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I have close sources in Ottawa that tell me that the end of our Canadian currency is fast approaching. Some say it will be replaced by the "Amero" in the next 3-5 years. It will be simular to the Euro but instead include Canada, Mexico and the U.S into one single currency. That means new notes will be issued.
How will this affect our CPM hobby?
Will our collections be worthless from a face value standpoint?
Will our collections be worth more?
How do we prepare for this from a collectors standpoint? Did the old paper money from other E.U. nations appreciate after the introduction of the Euro?
ect.
Call me skeptical, but I don't believe you. Wasn't a thread about this already locked?
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I see no possibility that US currency will disappear. That makes it hard to get an 'amero' authorized.
blumax
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The merger between the countries is already happening. Just here to inform you that the Governments have already picked out a name for when the US and Canada join, "U" "S" "EH" ;D
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I aggre with Rachelsprivate that our collecting currency will not go away. The notes we love will still be around and in just as many numbers.
It may hurt the value of it if all notes become non redeamable after a certain time. Similar to some of the chartered banks.
To sumarize, I have been hearing ideas like this for the past 10 years and nothing has ever happened. So im not getting worked up yet
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I aggre with Rachelsprivate that our collecting currency will not go away. The notes we love will still be around and in just as many numbers.
It may hurt the value of it if all notes become non redeamable after a certain time. Similar to some of the chartered banks.
To sumarize, I have been hearing ideas like this for the past 10 years and nothing has ever happened. So im not getting worked up yet
I disagree that the value will go down if the notes are non-redeemable. Look at the EU countries and even roman empire coins...they all went up.
With regards to the Amero, it's happening right now and the plans are being finalized. That is what we're seeing right now. It's actually not even up for debate anymore. All the documents are out there. Considering you've heard about it in the last 10 years is not a bad considering the initial talks first began in the 1940's (fact).
Myself, i'm considering reviewing all my notes and perhaps getting rid of the ones that aren't worth much and buy bullion or chinese stocks instead. ;D
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Thanks Canada
I had no idea that the process was soo far along. It is a very interesting subject and only time will tell how our hobby will be affected! Any ETA on when well be seeing the first one? Earlier I just mentioned 10 years because that was when I first started hearing about it. Before then I was in my teens and did not put much attention to the subject.
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I'm opposed already. The name bugs me. Why does it have to be some fabricated clone name. Why not something simple and familiar, like, oh I don't know...the DOLLAR!!!
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With regards to the Amero, it's happening right now and the plans are being finalized
This doesn't surprise me as we've discussed this many times before. One CPMF member (who has very reliable sources) gave a lot of compelling arguments to support this "Amero" policy. I also talked to someone who should be in the know (from Ottawa) and he strongly hinted we've proceeded in that direction. Look at how the US currency has been slightly colorized and in fact becoming more "Canadian like" (enlarged presidential engravings) with improved security features, etc. The new US notes are almost nice to look at now. It seems as if the two currencies have recently modified and are becoming more in step with each other. I still find it hard to believe that the US is willing to sacrifice (scrap) its traditional "greenback" with this new "Amero" and that it will be on par in Mexico. However, we've seen a dramatic increase in debit cards, and other technologies that have emerged, that have shaped and impact our day to day commerce. The global village is indeed shrinking.
I'm opposed already
Yes-- the name is irritating but AS IF we (you and I) have any choice! What will be done will be done (by the people who pull the strings). To petition it would be like trying to hold back the use of debit cards.
How will this affect our CPM hobby?
I believe people will still collect despite the fact that a Canadian currency will no longer be printed. It will likely change what we collect somewhat. But I believe this has already happened since we now collect non-identifiable insert replacements, rotators, and repeaters. The hobby is always evolving, and will likely continue to do so.
Will our collections be worthless from a face value standpoint?
Will our collections be worth more?
I don't see the connection between face value (eg: 1935 $25 note or 1954 *I/X $5.00) and the note's true worth. A note's face value is really insignificant (--well --maybe the 100's and 1000's will drop in value). What's rare and sought after will always remain desirable to a collector. The only difference is we'll be using a new currency to purchase our older notes (the Charlton's will need to be revised).
It may hurt the value of it if all notes become non redeamable after a certain time. Similar to some of the chartered banks
I can't see how this currency will go the way of the chartered notes. ??? Chartered note collecting takes a bit more research, and specializing, and thus is a lot like collecting errors-- you should know your stuff before you collect it. BOC notes are easier to collect with a wider base of collectors. Comparing the two is like comparing note collectors to coin collectors.
When the currency is "put to rest" I believe the BV of notes will go up (like the Irish pound/shilling notes). I believe that whenever something major happens to our currency (like the end of the $1 / $2 notes) than it draws more attention to an artisitic artefact which most people take for granted. Thus... more collectors (limited supply) and more demand. There will surely be a lot of hoarding of the last issue, a lot of filler kicking around, and a lot of newly "burned" newbies who've just bought a manufactured "major cutting" error from a 1986 $2 EGT sheet. (In other words not much different than today). If the Journey is the last issue than all the original "gold leaf" varieties will likely shoot up (like the 54 Devil's face).
How a new currency will affect the economy? I have no idea really but Ireland hasn't been held back by the euro. I doubt Canada will be adversely affected but there could be adjustments and growing pains as there was with the early years of the euro.
Perhaps Two-in-Vallarta has some input?
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Can anyone back up this story about the Amero with hard evidence? Or at least the name of someone in the government who gave you this information?
Otherwise, this is all just hearsay in my opinion.
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I'm interesed to see if the U.K will rollover for this new currency. Then again Bush shakes alot of hands. Hard to believe they have the time to conduct currency issues with Border issues on the table and Big industry leaders in all three countries wanting a piece of the pie. The Euro might have strength against alot of currencies but still meets resistance from many countries wanting to remain independent. You will soon see the same issues with the "Amero" if it exists. But then again I'm a small fish in a big tank ! :o
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CNBC Covers the Amero
This subject is complicated in it's entirety,but rest assured,it's a fact,the Amero is coming,the fall of the usd was part and parcel of the plan to have Americans accept this new currency.If this subject was speculation,conspiracy theory,or even just rumour,the #1 business channel in America would have cut this speaker off with a"cut to commercial" into the anchor's ear piece,which has happened on numerous occasions when this channel has a guest that strays off the script.
The meetind just weeks ago in Montreal with the 3 Amigos further implemented the NAU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYl0mdzE-p0&mode=related&search=
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I just cannot believe that the Americans are ready to give up the Greenback, colours and all. Maybe I'm naive, or a realist, or out to lunch but were going to be cashing in our dollars at a % and getting US$ in exchange if any monetary union happens. If it plays out that way, I'd rather be north of 49 (even in Sudbury).
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After watching Gary T's money factory show, you can see why the greenback would be hard to let go ! That's impressive manufacturing, good luck counterfeiter's.
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I tink Grow-ops would profit more when da currencies merge like one cosmic family, streamlining the flow of special spice cross borders through a seemless economy jumpstarting prosperity in a trickle down effect. Bob Marley himself prophesized dis long time ago after da long sacred smoke mon. I tink he also sez dat banknote collecting will flourish into a new promised land along with ziggy paper stocks.
For me, I hope dis Amero notes have pretty birds on them, someting different from balding eagles, Loonys, or vultures.
;)
Tink happy tots mons,
PD
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I know the Amero is part of a Satanic conspiracy in the name of economic and politically correct expediancy, part of a much bigger picture. Demonizing the Church was the latest step in brushing aside any moral opposition and creating also a spirtual vacuum for Satan and the dragon to make a final push to take worldwide global domination. We're talking END TIMES stuff here. One economy, one currency, one leader, one world wide oppressive system.
That happy enough for ya PD?
;)
And hey, thanks for the APA 8866666 note PD I love it,
KLR "Raven"
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Hey Rav,
One Currency? Dat would make for boring collecting my Dark Lady, imagine everybody collecting da same ting. You just can't wait to get the madatory mark of the beast 666 do you? And den everyting goes *poof* in a big puff of smoke and not da smoke I had in mind. Come to da light my Kerris and shun darkness, da Lord loves you and will save you!
Knew you would like dis note, you are welcomed.
Dei Gratia (D.G. Latin for "By the grace of God") Dark Lady,
PD
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I tink Grow-ops would profit more when da currencies merge like one cosmic family, streamlining the flow of special spice cross borders through a seemless economy jumpstarting prosperity in a trickle down effect. Bob Marley himself prophesized dis long time ago after da long sacred smoke mon. I tink he also sez dat banknote collecting will flourish into a new promised land along with ziggy paper stocks.
For me, I hope dis Amero notes have pretty birds on them, someting different from balding eagles, Loonys, or vultures.
;)
Tink happy tots mons,
PD
LOL Dats good s**t mon.
I'm not saying the Amero could never happen, but seriously folks, don't hold your breath. Can you imagine the political discussion about Canadian sovereignty that would HAVE to take place before anything like the Amero was adopted? :o This would be a huge issue and having a minority government, it ain't gonna happen.
You can take that to the bank.
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Can anyone back up this story about the Amero with hard evidence? Or at least the name of someone in the government who gave you this information?
Otherwise, this is all just hearsay in my opinion.
Do a search for "amero" on this website. A poster posted an article from the Globe and Mail that quotes David Dodge as saying a "single currency is possible in the future". The way politics and those above them work is in "incremental" steps. The beaurocrats of this city know what's in store for us and what has been planned ahead. Most major policies have been in development for decades. They slowly introduce them to the public via the media and once the ideas are planted in peoples heads and they start to accept them they announce it so casually. The Dodge announcement and many others have been made that insinuate the "amero" to exist in the next 3-5 years. If you search for them you will find them. My scepticism was put to rest by people in the loop. It's not a secret in Ottawa anymore and in fact it's a very well known fact on the streets here. We can't do anything about it. The papers have been signed and the plans have been made. The dollars strong rise to par with that of the American is a good indication. When our dollar is manipulated to par, you will see more announcements about the amero.
Cheers.
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CNBC Covers the Amero
This subject is complicated in it's entirety,but rest assured,it's a fact,the Amero is coming,the fall of the usd was part and parcel of the plan to have Americans accept this new currency.If this subject was speculation,conspiracy theory,or even just rumour,the #1 business channel in America would have cut this speaker off with a"cut to commercial" into the anchor's ear piece,which has happened on numerous occasions when this channel has a guest that strays off the script.
The meetind just weeks ago in Montreal with the 3 Amigos further implemented the NAU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYl0mdzE-p0&mode=related&search=
excellent post! You are another true outside the news box thinker!
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This doesn't surprise me as we've discussed this many times before. One CPMF member (who has very reliable sources) gave a lot of compelling arguments to support this "Amero" policy. I also talked to someone who should be in the know (from Ottawa) and he strongly hinted we've proceeded in that direction. Look at how the US currency has been slightly colorized and in fact becoming more "Canadian like" (enlarged presidential engravings) with improved security features, etc. The new US notes are almost nice to look at now. It seems as if the two currencies have recently modified and are becoming more in step with each other. I still find it hard to believe that the US is willing to sacrifice (scrap) its traditional "greenback" with this new "Amero" and that it will be on par in Mexico. However, we've seen a dramatic increase in debit cards, and other technologies that have emerged, that have shaped and impact our day to day commerce. The global village is indeed shrinking.
Yes-- the name is irritating but AS IF we (you and I) have any choice! What will be done will be done (by the people who pull the strings). To petition it would be like trying to hold back the use of debit cards.
I believe people will still collect despite the fact that a Canadian currency will no longer be printed. It will likely change what we collect somewhat. But I believe this has already happened since we now collect non-identifiable insert replacements, rotators, and repeaters. The hobby is always evolving, and will likely continue to do so.
I don't see the connection between face value (eg: 1935 $25 note or 1954 *I/X $5.00) and the note's true worth. A note's face value is really insignificant (--well --maybe the 100's and 1000's will drop in value). What's rare and sought after will always remain desirable to a collector. The only difference is we'll be using a new currency to purchase our older notes (the Charlton's will need to be revised).
I can't see how this currency will go the way of the chartered notes. ??? Chartered note collecting takes a bit more research, and specializing, and thus is a lot like collecting errors-- you should know your stuff before you collect it. BOC notes are easier to collect with a wider base of collectors. Comparing the two is like comparing note collectors to coin collectors.
When the currency is "put to rest" I believe the BV of notes will go up (like the Irish pound/shilling notes). I believe that whenever something major happens to our currency (like the end of the $1 / $2 notes) than it draws more attention to an artisitic artefact which most people take for granted. Thus... more collectors (limited supply) and more demand. There will surely be a lot of hoarding of the last issue, a lot of filler kicking around, and a lot of newly "burned" newbies who've just bought a manufactured "major cutting" error from a 1986 $2 EGT sheet. (In other words not much different than today). If the Journey is the last issue than all the original "gold leaf" varieties will likely shoot up (like the 54 Devil's face).
How a new currency will affect the economy? I have no idea really but Ireland hasn't been held back by the euro. I doubt Canada will be adversely affected but there could be adjustments and growing pains as there was with the early years of the euro.
Perhaps Two-in-Vallarta has some input?
Excellent Post as well! To answer your question as to how the new currency will affect the economy, SIMPLE!...We CANADIANS inherit America's record debt which is in the trillions! Those are the laws of Integrated Monetary Policy. And the way their economy is going...well...we're scre*ed! They're going to bring us down to their level. If Canadians weren't so oblivious to this fact, there would be huge riots and demonstrations right across the country opposing this "Amero".
"Fun Fact"(Sad Fact): The "aristocrats" of North America (who are also in the loop) are bringing in nannies from China to teach their children Mandarin because they know their kids will need it in the near future and because English won't be what it is now.
If you are interested in knowing more, just pm me.
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No doubt the US government would support a single North Amercian currency. But what about the US people? These are the same people who have not been convinced to adopt a 1 dollar coin in several attempts made over the past 40 years.
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You clearly haven't read "The Sacred Script"! They're going to be bringing the Americans down to their knees financially and economically. That's how they're going to do it. It's happening right now as I write this. They're playing everyone like an accordian...I hope you like their tune!...LOL!
PS: You have the opportunity to become very rich if you know the script! The rare note you sold last month that yielded you a few thousand bucks is a penny in the bucket in comparison!
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I think I will sell all of my notes at face so I can start to buy the new AMERO. ;D
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What do you think of this one? ;D
Notice it's 20 Ameros...what about the paper money form???
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6295/20amerofantasycoinen6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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You clearly haven't read "The Sacred Script"! They're going to be bringing the Americans down to their knees financially and economically. That's how they're going to do it. It's happening right now as I write this. They're playing everyone like an accordian...I hope you like their tune!...LOL!
PS: You have the opportunity to become very rich if you know the script! The rare note you sold last month that yielded you a few thousand bucks is a penny in the bucket in comparison!
Ahhh,gwasshopper!! You learn quick.
It was I that introduced this to the forum,some got down right nasty hearing facts about to take place.
Now,what if...and I say,what if,the American dollar is being tanked, after trillions upon trillions of this paper have been printed,with bidders looking scarcer than a hooker in confessional,'cept for some Cayman Island shell companies and Bahamian(registered) shells supporting the "full faith and credit of the goverment"?
What if the current debt has been run up for this exact purpose? Suppose the C$ were to rise in intrisic value,say 20% above the usd$,think the US population might be more susceptible to giving up their precious buck....
I could say so much more but...he!!,I'm in Mexico right now :)
Exchanging pesos for canbucks,the currency of champions....
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It's funny how Miss Liberty can even look at us straight in the face ???
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I think I will sell all of my notes at face so I can start to buy the new AMERO
Stick with the canadian dollar...your purchasing power will soar,if you must diversify,buy the Euro..it'll go 1.44 before some major resistance knocks the crap out of it....
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I could say so much more but...he!!,I'm in Mexico right now
If the Mexican Police break down your door don't forget to swallow the SACRED SCRIPT 8)
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Stick with the canadian dollar...your purchasing power will soar,if you must diversify,buy the Euro..it'll go 1.44 before some major resistance knocks the crap out of it....
Friedsquid:
I strongly suggest you and I take advice from someone who is currently relaxing on the beach and sipping on tequila with a girl in each arm. It speaks for itself ;D
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a girl in each arm.
If this is true then is there a chance of blackmailing someone for one of his SOLIDS ;D
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Ahhh,gwasshopper!! You learn quick.
It was I that introduced this to the forum,some got down right nasty hearing facts about to take place.
Now,what if...and I say,what if,the American dollar is being tanked, after trillions upon trillions of this paper have been printed,with bidders looking scarcer than a hooker in confessional,'cept for some Cayman Island shell companies and Bahamian(registered) shells supporting the "full faith and credit of the goverment"?
What if the current debt has been run up for this exact purpose? Suppose the C$ were to rise in intrisic value,say 20% above the usd$,think the US population might be more susceptible to giving up their precious buck....
I could say so much more but...he!!,I'm in Mexico right now :)
Exchanging pesos for canbucks,the currency of champions....
You were ridiculed about the Amero? I'm not surprised. I mean it can't be true if it's not on the evening news! It especially can't be true if the "experts" on tv say that it's not! You also sound like a conspiracy theorist to me...lol...;)
As for introducing the Amero to Americans I don't think it will be that difficult. The dollar is gradually being manipulated to par so that selling the Amero idea to the masses becomes an easier job for the spokesmen involved....And we are 1 interest rate hike/decrease away from par. Besides it only takes a government induced crisis to swindle the public into begging their own government for a solution! I no longer debate case scenarios because the script has been written by our masters and that's to keep the $ at par. It's just a matter of how the think tanks spin the story to win the support of the masses. Remember that the prices of commodities, interest rates, gold and oil are easily manipulated to a favourable outcome. ( Don't forget that just a year ago last June, was when they rubberstamped the idea of manipulating the price of crude oil up to current levels and beyond. Everybody in the loop made huge mula!). The Amero is here and the masses will accept it wether they like or not...much like every other political decision!
"Fun fact"(sad fact): They have awarded the contract to the company that's going to be printing the Amero.
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Like everything in life - when I'm holding one of these notes I'll believe it !
But if it gives me stronger purchasing power for let's say Tequila .... well
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Add me to the list of skeptics. I really don't think this is happening. Certainly not in the next 5 years.
But if it does, you can bet that there won't be a newly redesigned currency. Canada and Mexico will simply drop their own currencies and adopt the USD, green backs and presidents included.
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Add me to the list of skeptics. I really don't think this is happening. Certainly not in the next 5 years.
But if it does, you can bet that there won't be a newly redesigned currency. Canada and Mexico will simply drop their own currencies and adopt the USD, green backs and presidents included.
The paper currency will be redesigned and I hold this belief because the Euro is the model they're following. Most countries have a version of the Euro with superficial custom taylored art. Furthermore, Europe was the rat and now that they've gone through with the integration of one continent, the NAU will be much easier to create. 5 years is an awfully long time knowing what we know now with the EU creation. They say they can create Fortress North America in 1/3 of the time of what it took Europe.
I wish i could see a rendering of our new paper currency.
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There is a segment of the population,confronted with a mountain of evidence,who will deny a reality till the end.I don't make the news,just report it.
The signals are being telegraphed by various means,here's another(hmmm,wasn't that London CNBC talking about the "Amero")
Tuesday Sep 4 2007
All times are London time.
Credit turmoil ‘has hallmarks of bank run’
By Krishna Guha in Jackson Hole
Published: September 2 2007 20:18 | Last updated: September 2 2007 21:16
The current turmoil in the financial markets has all the characteristics of a classic banking crisis, but one that is taking place outside the traditional banking sector, Axel Weber, president of the Bundesbank, said at the weekend.
“What we are seeing is basically what we see underlying all banking crises,” said Mr Weber, one of the most influential members of the governing council of the European Central Bank.
The comments mark the first time that a top central banker has endorsed the notion that the non-bank financial system is seeing an old-style bank run.
Some Federal Reserve policymakers also privately see comparisons between the current distress in credit markets and the bank runs of the 19th century, in which savers lost confidence in banks and demanded their money back, creating a spiralling liquidity crisis for institutions that had invested this money in longer-term assets.
That scenario ultimately led to the creation of the US Federal Reserve and other central banks as lenders of last resort for the banking system.
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Well I had to look into to this Amero thing to see if there was any truth to theory, so for the last couple days I got my hands on every piece of literature or video blog ever done on the subject. The press has reason to speculate considering the American Government isn't sharing any information concerning The North American Union with them or the rest of us (including the Amero) . All that's available is what is posted on Government sites and speculation from every corner of the planet. This Amero thing is what worries me the least, the fact that all three governments aren't sharing their proposed ideas is the key and more frightening issue concerning all three countries sovereignty.
O By the way - The one American News clip had the Skydome and CN Tower as our Defense Headquarters !
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Also, as an added bonus, check out the CBOT wheat chart . Get ready for sticker shock at your local grocery store! Don’t worry however, the feds will tell you that there is no inflation. Believe them instead of your own eyes! If this keeps up, a wheat sandwich will be cheaper to buy if you leave off the bread and just eat the meat or turkey and the lettuce. Forget the cheese, it is too expensive also!
Gov. would never skew the #'s to their liking,nor would they keep info from you.
Got milk! ;)
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O By the way - The one American News clip had the Skydome and CN Tower as our Defense Headquarters !
How stupid can anyone really be to believe that? Everyone knows that Canada's Defense Headquarters is on the Toronto Islands under the lighthouse at Hanlon's Point. It's been in that location for over 70 years now
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Collecting is too much fun for me to think purely of the profit motive.
Do you have any UNC 5 dollar inserts you'd like to sell at face.
I will buy them all.
FRIEDSQUID
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Sure, if you pay me with those devils face asterisks you said you were going to dump. I need one of those.
Meet you beside the dumpster where I hope I can still find them.
But don't forget to bring your inserts along as well.
And Come alone 8)
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Well I had to look into to this Amero thing to see if there was any truth to theory, so for the last couple days I got my hands on every piece of literature or video blog ever done on the subject.
So please tell us what you discovered when you filed for information regarding the March 2005 meeting held at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., between President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin using your freedom of information rights? ;)
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Also, as an added bonus, check out the CBOT wheat chart . Get ready for sticker shock at your local grocery store! Don’t worry however, the feds will tell you that there is no inflation. Believe them instead of your own eyes! If this keeps up, a wheat sandwich will be cheaper to buy if you leave off the bread and just eat the meat or turkey and the lettuce. Forget the cheese, it is too expensive also!
Gov. would never skew the #'s to their liking,nor would they keep info from you.
Got milk! ;)
LMFAO! It's true and I should be crying instead of laughing. Inflation will be horrific like it was in most countries who joined the EU. They are using the exact same model as the EU so we will be experiencing the exact same hardships. You know how some will spin it..."how can we ever stay competitive with the EU. So TwoinVallarta, heard about the Pacic-Asia Union that's also under development? ;D
I like your outside the "news box" thinking. I'm betting my rare notes that you're a very sucessful man in life.
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Straight from the beast
The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
I read the Waco blog, again speculation. Anymore questions can be forwarded to the New Rogers defense centre located kiddie corner to the Prime Minister's Igloo.
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So TwoinVallarta, heard about the Pacic-Asia Union that's also under development?
Three blocks will compete,roadmaps are in place,intergration is almost complete.PAU,NAU.EEU-the end lol.
I'm betting my rare notes that you're a very sucessful man in life.
Maybe,but didn't I tell you to move out of that city before i left for Mexico.Sure i did. ;) You deserve better ;D
My profession puts me with money-some big money,and power.That's where I learnt the truth of whats coming.And independent research.
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To answer your question as to how the new currency will affect the economy, SIMPLE!...[b]We CANADIANS inherit America's record debt [/b] which is in the trillions! Those are the laws of Integrated Monetary Policy. And the way their economy is going...well...we're scre*ed!
I can see how our multi-billion trade with our neighbours to the south affects our economy but I fail to see how having a common currency automatically burdens Canada with their debt? ??? That just makes no sense whatsoever! Anymore than the US being saddled with ours...
That's like saying Ireland inherited Italy's debt during their conversion to the euro.
However i can see some growing pains yet the case for the Amero according to Grubel
http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/critical_issues/1999/amero/
claims several fiscal benefits for each country.
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Straight from the beast
The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
I read the Waco blog, again speculation. Anymore questions can be forwarded to the New Rogers defense centre located kiddie corner to the Prime Minister's Igloo.
Again, why don't you go straight to the source and obtain information using the Freedom of Information Act? The internet is nothing but ideas. It's up to you to prove it to yourself.
PS: Don't ever quote that American Government Site...it's been proven to be propaganda from start to finish. It's created to pull the wool over your eyes.
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If you've obtained a fresh design of the new note through the freedom of Information Act let me know. I'd be interested in some early print runs,
Choice Uncirculated - Gem Uncirculated
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canada:
Wheat is limit up again today! It used to be that a diet of bread and water was the most basic one for survival – if you wanted to keep prisoners alive, that is all you fed them. If this keeps going, it will soon be considered a delicacy! “Keep your damn fish eggs, pass me the wheat bread please!” will be the new fad.
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Beast?
I just know things will get bad before they get worse, the corporate mandarins will always have their strings pulled to influence their economic and political might. What do you expect when Pop media is designed to make everyone think shallow and shorten our attention spans.
Canada will suffer economically as their debt comes crashing down on us, we don’t have the same economy of scale as the Americans. What will happen? Budgetary surpluses will be wiped out overnight. Government will really tighten up their spending or substantial increase in taxes. Massive privatization, sound familiar because “you ain’t seen nothin yet.”
This so called Union spun by media will no doubt be played up by the media, In time Central America and South America each little banana republic will be strong-armed into the union swallowing up their economies too but in different ways depending on the resources they have.
Think Happy thoughts PD,
KLR
(Evil smiley)
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You really want me to answer dat don you Princess?
I believe God will deal wit dis in his own time. Tings will work out for dose who trust in Him. A message from da New Reformed Rastifarian Orthodox Church. It's in da Good Book, call my cell.
As most of you may notice dat when one touches a hot button with da Dark Princess she will talk plenty about social and politically correct oppression dished out to da unsuspecting mainstream folk. Depressing talk but something I share often within her lovely presence.
What you won’t notice dat she often loses her quaint little English accent when she really gets going. In her Lolita mode she will tend to color her language with select heartwarming invectives and pejoratives, for now demure she is.
Rave, does dat mean I be looking after Edgar again?
Don worries, be happy.
PD
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To answer your question as to how the new currency will affect the economy, SIMPLE!...[b]We CANADIANS inherit America's record debt [/b] which is in the trillions! Those are the laws of Integrated Monetary Policy. And the way their economy is going...well...we're scre*ed!
I can see how our multi-billion trade with our neighbours to the south affects our economy but I fail to see how having a common currency automatically burdens Canada with their debt? ??? That just makes no sense whatsoever! Anymore than the US being saddled with ours...
That's like saying Ireland inherited Italy's debt during their conversion to the euro.
However i can see some growing pains yet the case for the Amero according to Grubel
http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/critical_issues/1999/amero/
claims several fiscal benefits for each country.
When we integrate our monetary policy( aka - the heart and soul of a nation) we integrate the debt as well because the Amero’s value will, to a greater extent, be a function/reflection of both the Canadian and the U.S. debt combined. Remember when our dollar was dropping like a rock because our debt was “getting out of control”?... and now the American dollar is experiencing much the same. Also, our economy is relatively much much smaller and we’re going to get swallowed up by the integration. The value of the Amero will reflect the value of the US dollar and debt more so and when that happens our buying power will dramatically be reduced and inflation will go up just like TwoinVallarta said. Thus, Monetary policy will be adjusted accordingly (as a one size fits all adjustment) and suddenly the debt will be our (US & Can) problem especially when they control the money supply as well!
More importantly however (which is what this is all about) is we lose as a nation our independence to adjust our interest rates and adjust all other monetary policies according to Canada's needs. Can you imagine what Canada would be going through right now if we had Bernake controlling Canada the last few years or so?...:s Look at the differences in our monetary decisions the last few years for a clearer picture and examples as to why we need an independent currency and monetary system. A one size fits all policy is not a smart one especially for the little guys!
SAD/SCARRY FACT!!!! : The difference between our monetary system and the one in the U.S. is that one is privately owned an operated (NOT a government owned operation)! The 12 banks of America (privately owned by prominent citizens and operated for a profit) own the Federal reserve which determines what American’s loan payments will be and what the money supply will be. Conflict of interest or what??? There is nothing “Federal” about the reserve. Look in an American phonebook for example and you’ll see Federal reserve in the business section and not the Government section. If you look in our history books, those who privatized the American Central Bank in the early part of the last century also managed to privatize Canada’s as well. However, six months later our politicians realized what a scam it was and they quickly went back to our current system! So that’s what the amero is also really about. Privatizing our central bank and losing our control. That’s what will happen to our public monetary system. But in today's world, the politicians have been bought off and they don’t give a ****. Why will privatization suddently be good for canada now if it wasn't 70-80 years ago? Bye bye Canada .
It's just the same tricks being pulled over and over again. These people aren't geniuses by any stretch of the imagination.
You can vote PC, Liberal, NDP, Green or even Marxist next election, but it's all the same poop just in a different pile;).
People need to start looking at the world from a more critical perspective and to understand that very often things are not what the population at large think they are. And as far as the tube goes, it’s not the most accurate source of information (but yet the only source of information for most) which is why we’re all oblivious to many issues today.
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We gotta make your voice known, contact your MPs and MLAs NOW and explicity oppose this Amero currency system concept even if it is already in the books. When all the poor people suffer then you could say to yourself "I did oppose this to my politican." Reply to news editorials, and pass the word in all forums and banks where you can. And when the time comes, use your old money (the common bad grades stuff).
Plagerized from your Good book PD...
"For the love of money is a Root of all kinds of Evil." 1 Timothy 6:10
Please...just till months end, hold the millet PD.
And, thanks for the AOU 3983666.
KLR
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We gotta make your voice known, contact your MPs and MLAs NOW and explicity oppose this Amero currency system concept even if it is already in the books. When all the poor people suffer then you could say to yourself "I did oppose this to my politican." Reply to news editorials, and pass the word in all forums and banks where you can. And when the time comes, use your old money (the common bad grades stuff).
Plagerized from your Good book PD...
"For the love of money is a Root of all kinds of Evil." 1 Timothy 6:10
Please...just till months end, hold the millet PD.
And, thanks for the AOU 3983666.
KLR
I agree but I don't think they can do anything about it. Their jurisdiction falls at a lower echelon of power. Liberals = Conservatives = continue agenda = Amero without debate for example because they're just the spokesmen on the front lines.
SAD FACT: Current government documents propose government preparation for massive uprisings, riots and demonstrations that are to be expected in 15-25 years time right across the country. I pose the question, what will they be changing in society to warrent such action by the citizens? Gets you thinking.
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Talked to some dealers and collectors at the Oakridge show about the Amero and most I talked to seemed unconcerned and at best lukewarm about this Amero. This sure doesn't seem to make good conversation around this place, either that or I must have a bad delivery or something.
Apathy? The Canadain Way.
PD
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I have to agree with Canada but the fact is there money to be made in some politicians mind and that will be the CANADIAN DOLLAR down fall. Once the US bounce back from there poor INVESTMENTS and the WAR than forget about us :-X
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Talked to some dealers and collectors at the Oakridge show about the Amero and most I talked to seemed unconcerned and at best lukewarm about this Amero. This sure doesn't seem to make good conversation around this place, either that or I must have a bad delivery or something.
It's true that if you were in Europe or the caribbean you'd have a long debate on this one.
The way those kangaroos talk in Australia, you'd think this Amero business was just a stone's throw away. I wouldn't dismiss anything from the character who's holding parliament hostage for another month. These charlatans are capable of anything (just watch Farenheit 9/11). Now that's a scary fact.
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What will happen to phases like "The Buck Stops Here"?
In fact I think the new currency should be called just that: The Buck. This will result in no change in parlance at all!!!
example: "Thad'll be 30 Bucks, Buddy. no problem!!!!
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The Buck.
President Bushwacked and Prime minister Harpy's successors won't have any trouble "passing the buck..."
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President Bushwacked and Prime minister Harpy's successors won't have any trouble "passing the buck..."
A man who is 'ill-adjusted' to the world is always on the verge of finding himself. One who is adjusted to the world never finds himself, but gets to be a cabinet minister. -Hermann Hesse, novelist, poet, Nobel laureate(1877-1962)
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Talked to some dealers and collectors at the Oakridge show about the Amero and most I talked to seemed unconcerned and at best lukewarm about this Amero. This sure doesn't seem to make good conversation around this place, either that or I must have a bad delivery or something.
Apathy? The Canadain Way.
PD
Of course it won't make for good conversation as most are unsure and insecure about how it will affect their investment and possibly their livelihood. Your comments are from their perspective threatening but unfortunately if they choose to bury their heads in the sand it won't make the issue go away.
I personally think the value of the notes will increase especially from a scarcity and historical value perspective and we don't have much to worry about. I personally believe businesses will adjust for the times and our note collecting hobby will continue. But that's my personal perspective and that's why I asked the question to begin with.
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It's true that if you were in Europe or the caribbean you'd have a long debate on this one.
The way those kangaroos talk in Australia, you'd think this Amero business was just a stone's throw away. I wouldn't dismiss anything from the character who's holding parliament hostage for another month. These charlatans are capable of anything (just watch Farenheit 9/11). Now that's a scary fact.
Well said.
If you liked farenheit 9/11 their are far superior documentaries (packed with facts) and all backed up with support! Tens of millions of Americans have seen them to date. They're called "Loose Change". It can be found on google video http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&total=3099&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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the 2nd one is called "911 Road to Tyranny" http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6517776133137328105&q=911+road+to+tyranny&total=72&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
(Please message me when you see it and tell me what you thought.)
If you like that one, watch a world award winning documentary (by Canadians???..can't remember) called "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". It opens ones eyes to the media and how it can manipulate society.
And another great one: "The Great Global Warming Swindle" ...this one was even played on ABC channels right across the US. It's debatable but it has nice "eye opening" facts you should always keep in mind. It contains the opinions of top Canadian scientists.
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I was watching Business News Network (BNN) and Steven Jarislowsky ("Warren Buffet of Canada") just promoted a "single currency" in North America and a free movement of all labour. He went on to say it's "imminent" and gave a whole propaganda spiel on why we should move into that direction. Did anyone see it???
PS: He was promoted as one of Canada's most successful investors. What a bunch of rubbish...he just has insider info!!! If I knew ALL the outcomes and news headlines 2-3 years in advance of course I could make money too with successful bets. It's literally that easy! That's how they make so much money.
For example, I made a little bit of money after reading this article 2 years ago(http://www.bilderberg.org/2005.htm#Infiltrating) which contained leaked information. I knew oil was going to be heading towards the $100 (it was $40 at the time) and I immediately threw money into energy. Warren Buffet and Jarislowsky attend these meetings and make decisions based on the insider information they receive. LOL...what a bunch of scammers/clowns. Are they really smarter or is it that they have info you and I don't? It was also funny to watch Goldman and Sachs one week after this meeting also announced their $100 a barrel predictions...they’re playing us I’m telling you!...they are playing us...hehehe
Imagine the money Steven Jarislowsky is going to make by properly orienting himself for the N.A.U that he already knows is coming!
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"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John Francis Hylan, Mayor of New York City from 1918 to 1925
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If you like that one, watch a world award winning documentary (by Canadians???..can't remember) called "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". It opens ones eyes to the media and how it can manipulate society.
Thanks for the info! I will get back to you when I view them . I teach Media Arts so believe me-- I'm very interested and have a somewhat realistic perspective on the power of the media. I may have seen the Cdn one. I try to teach my students how to deconstruct messages/images we're bombarded with... some of it gets through!
The hegemony of the ruling (wealthy) classes is nothing new. There's only so much we can do to keep it in check. Independent films, documentaries, and some of the counter-culture mediums contribute somewhat to dismantling the myths, and keeping some powers in check. Its too bad there's not more documentaries taking a strip out of these "snake oil salesmen" who pass themselves off as "financial wizards." Unfortunately most documentaries have to be produced before they can get funding (a kind of Catch 22 for most would-be documentary film makers).
As you say: information is huge-- and whoever has it-- can gain from it when used wisely. At least you got in on the oil when it was cheap.
I think a lot of collectors have found a huge value in the information that surrounds paper money. Its so vastly different now compated to 30 years ago when I started in this hobby and thought I had a screw loose for keeping a binder of 1954/74 notes. There wasn't even a Charlton back when I started! Now with the internet.. it totally changes the landscape of the hobby.
Today, I always enjoy meeting some of the "top dogs" in the community at shows and conventions. I try to keep my good ear to the ground (no matter how poorly it works!) just to pick up the odd gem of info.
I guess however, that the info around the hobby pales in comparison to what an informed person can capitalize on with insider knowledge like the self-proclaimed "wonderboy" you mentioned (Steven Jarislowsky).
I still like to think that if there is some kind of conversion of our currency it couldn't hurt the hobby....or it may even boost it. I really do think they would polymerize it too if they're going to change it so radically in the first place. And if they don't...then it might be an opportunity to collect them...becasue polymer is next. Polymer notes are so much more secure and last that much longer. If that were to happen...then it would make paper seem even more antiquated, & desirable to collect. Whatever happens... new collectors must be brought into the fold (as it were) for the hobby to grow..and for the notes to really appreciate in value.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
Sounds like something from the Russian intellectuals (Bakhtin, Dostoevski, Chekhov)
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"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John Francis Hylan, Mayor of New York City from 1918 to 1925
Walktothewater and TwoinVallarta:
There's a documentary called "Money Masters". It's very well researched and really about "Money wizards". One of my degrees is in Economics and I can tell you that Macroeconomics is a "B.S." subject and I have the support of a PHd. in Economics or Economist (my friend's dad who teaches at U of T) when i claim this. This documentary explains the world of Macroeconomics and is really is 99% of all you need to know and to make sense of it. Whenever people pull technical terms, complicated theory and try to make it sound complicated you know they're trying to confuse you and pull the wool over your eyes. Don't fall for it. The real world doesn't work like that...ESPECIALLY...the Bank Economists who should be ashamed of themselves.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
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Thanks for the info! I will get back to you when I view them . I teach Media Arts so believe me-- I'm very interested and have a somewhat realistic perspective on the power of the media. I may have seen the Cdn one. I try to teach my students how to deconstruct messages/images we're bombarded with... some of it gets through!
As you say: information is huge-- and whoever has it-- can gain from it when used wisely. At least you got in on the oil when it was cheap.
I guess however, that the info around the hobby pales in comparison to what an informed person can capitalize on with insider knowledge like the self-proclaimed "wonderboy" you mentioned (Steven Jarislowsky).
With your profound knowledge in Media Arts, woould you agree with my following statement:
The "culture industry" uses drama and propaganada through fictional works to download into peoples minds specific ideas of acceptance or change etc. because when it's done through fiction people's sensor/guard is down and they don't question what they read or view because they think they are being entertained. What i'm describing is also known as "predictive programing". These ideas are pushed years in advance to shape, condition and accept what has been planned in the future. I have many many books written in the early 1900's by Quigley, Bertrand Russel, Brazinski ect. for example who wrote about exactly what is happening in this world today :o
With respect to insider information, I can tell you that there's a lot of money to be made in biometric RFID chip stocks. They're going to be huge in the near future and many government contracts are to be awarded.
Sad Fact: The governments have already bought these massive liquid cooled super computers designed to work with these chips. The super computers have been placed in various regions across Canada including down the street from where I live. Also CSIS and the CIA have already been integrated as part of the N.A.U. Further to that, many Canadian government employees will be able to get transfered to U.S.government positions (and visa-versa) in the very nearly future. Let's see how long it takes the media to announce it...lol
(It took the media 19 years to finally announce that people shouldn't be wearing sunscreen on a regular basis and that the sun is good for you in moderation...lol. At the time it was so pathetic I was able to see through this b.s even though i was kid.)
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Also CSIS and the CIA have already been integrated as part of the N.A.U. Further to that, many Canadian government employees will be able to get transfered to U.S.government positions (and visa-versa) in the very nearly future. Let's see how long it takes the media to announce it
Did you see that the RCMP want access to personal email communication too (like in the US)? On CTV they were talking to an "expert" who's concerned about our civil liberties being violated, even though she had to concede that most ISP's likely hand over whatever the police request anyway. Arthur would know more about this than I.
Can you imagine what the average American must feel like since 9/11? What kind of civil liberties or freedoms are traipsed all over there? Sort of like going to see the proctologist and bending over in the waiting room!
Its unfortunate: but like those documentaries you recommended -- a lot of people feel that "what they don't know - won't hurt them," and I believe that's why they (ie docs like "Loose Change"') are not more mainstream (plus the powers that run the media won't allow it) Its too bad the present NA governments/businesses/media seem to prey on this "ignorance is bliss" (or Daddy knows best ideology) and only let little snippets of info leak when its convenient for them. Maybe it will catch up to them. That's what I love about the Internet... it seems to provide a more level playing field for those who don't want to walk around with blinders on. Mikhail Bakhtin wrote about it in the 1920's (he likened authoritative power to a centrifugal force, and the artists, people's revolts/protestors, etc as a centripetal -- counteractive force). He was sent to Siberia for his writings (which were later retrieved in the 80's and seen as visionary).
The "culture industry" uses drama and propaganada through fictional works to download into peoples minds specific ideas of acceptance or change etc. because when it's done through fiction people's sensor/guard is down and they don't question what they read or view because they think they are being entertained.
Absolutely - No doubt. They say the novel was the first sedative for the masses... keeping everyone happy with the status quo. The most popular novelist and dramatists were the ones who were considered a bit "edgy" because audiences also love to feel enlightened and superior. Just think of Shaw or Dickens. In theatres across London the middle class were laughing at the abuse of children ("Oliver"- or on the edge of their seats with "A Christmas Carol") and it was only years later that change finally took place.
Did you also know that Marshall MacLuhan's famous book "The Medium is the Message" was first titled with the accidental typo "The Medium is the Massage" and he ordered the publisher to leave it? I guess he figured -- this serendipitous mishap was most prophetic!
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"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John Francis Hylan, Mayor of New York City from 1918 to 1925
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies…if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency…the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
Thomas Jefferson 1743-1826
“If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nations’ credit”
Sir Josiah Stamp 1880-1941
“Our great industrial nation is controlled by it’s system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men…who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world- no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.
President Woodrow Wilson
“A world of banking system was being set up here…a superstate controlled by international bankers…acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. The fed has usurped the government.”
Congressman Louis McFadden
President John.F. Kenedy had the best one. It was a speech he gave several days before his assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3oONf0hcEM
Much of what is happening right now in the U.S. with the subprime mortgages is what has been happening throughout history in cycles all along. I guess the best way i can describe it is a scam that has been recycled over and over again but packaged under a different name each time. This time, it's the "subprime" mortgage...what a farce...lol.
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Did you see that the RCMP want access to personal email communication too (like in the US)? On CTV they were talking to an "expert" who's concerned about our civil liberties being violated, even though she had to concede that most ISP's likely hand over whatever the police request anyway. Arthur would know more about this than I.
Can you imagine what the average American must feel like since 9/11? What kind of civil liberties or freedoms are traipsed all over there? Sort of like going to see the proctologist and bending over in the waiting room!
Its unfortunate: but like those documentaries you recommended -- a lot of people feel that "what they don't know - won't hurt them," and I believe that's why they (ie docs like "Loose Change"') are not more mainstream (plus the powers that run the media won't allow it) Its too bad the present NA governments/businesses/media seem to prey on this "ignorance is bliss" (or Daddy knows best ideology) and only let little snippets of info leak when its convenient for them. Maybe it will catch up to them. That's what I love about the Internet... it seems to provide a more level playing field for those who don't want to walk around with blinders on. Mikhail Bakhtin wrote about it in the 1920's (he likened authoritative power to a centrifugal force, and the artists, people's revolts/protestors, etc as a centripetal -- counteractive force). He was sent to Siberia for his writings (which were later retrieved in the 80's and seen as visionary).
Absolutely - No doubt. They say the novel was the first sedative for the masses... keeping everyone happy with the status quo. The most popular novelist and dramatists were the ones who were considered a bit "edgy" because audiences also love to feel enlightened and superior. Just think of Shaw or Dickens. In theatres across London the middle class were laughing at the abuse of children ("Oliver"- or on the edge of their seats with "A Christmas Carol") and it was only years later that change finally took place.
Did you also know that Marshall MacLuhan's famous book "The Medium is the Message" was first titled with the accidental typo "The Medium is the Massage" and he ordered the publisher to leave it? I guess he figured -- this serendipitous mishap was most prophetic!
I absolutely agree with you.
Our liberties are gradually being taken away from us. It's interesting how they do it piece by piece while never mentioning any part of their final objectives. People with memories and a critical eye can put the pieces of the puzzle together and see what's really happening and what they're trying to do. This is all being done in the name of "fighting terrorism". We all know this is just another piece of the puzzle that incrementally changes our society to one that is much like China's totalitarian system.
We all also know the attacks on Afganistan, Iraq (and in the very near future Iran and then Syria) are more than just about oil. They were an attack on a race and religion for the purpose of standardizing the world. Dr. Quigley(Advisor and also a 'mover and shaker') in his books wrote "War is about social change. More can be done in 5 years of war via propaganda and fear than in 5 years of peace" (That is also why "We are at war"). You don't really think some primative men living in a cave have the ability to take our modern technological world hostage with some box cutters and a Quran in hand. What a farce yet again. "The Power of Nightmares" is a 3 part BBC documentary worth watching on this exact topic.
Did you hear that 2012 (written in UN documents) is when the UN is schedule to take over "the 3 major EMERGED trading blocks" that include North America, E.U. and Asia?
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The thread entitled "OT: Suspended for selling ICCS coins on eBay???" was shut down by a Mod in very short order whereas the "Amero Debut" and "Buyer (and seller) Beware!" threads have been allowed to prosper for the longest time. This seems inconsistent to me as the ICCS/eBay thread is more directly related to numismatics than the Amero and Buyer Beware threads. In particular, if eBay decides to banish ICCS (the longest-established coin grading service in Canada) then that will not augur well for the acceptance of the Canadian paper money grading services on eBay, and that should be of direct concern to all of us.
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The "OT: Suspended for selling ICCS coins on eBay???" thread was shut down in very short order whereas the "Amero Debut" thread has been allowed to prosper for the longest time. This seems inconsistent to me as the ICCS/eBay thread is much more directly related to numismatics than the Amero thread. In particular, how eBay decides to treat ICCS (the longest-established coin grading service in Canada) does not augur well for the acceptance of the Canadian paper money grading services on eBay, and that should be of direct concern to all of us.
I'm sorry you can't see the correlation between the Amero (our new currency), our emerging monetary policy, money supply and the effect all these factors will have on our paper money collection hobby. As a Canadian paper money enthusiast, I enjoy studying and discussing each and every aspect of paper money. To me it's a much broader topic than just the physical paper money aspect. Do you think this forum would be as successful as it is if it wasn't for the broad topics of interest dealing with paper money that no other site in the world deals with? If this site just regurgitated what the Charleston Paper Money guide said, then most would buy the book instead.
Failing to see the correlation between paper money and this thread only leaves me perplexed as to how you do see a correlation between the Amero thread and the coin standards thread?
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I seem to have hit a nerve! I merely expressed the view that, in my opinion, the ICCS/eBay matter is more directly related to numismatics than the other two threads. Nowhere did I say that the other two threads are not relevant and/or should be shut down. I just don't understand why the ICCS/eBay thread was shut down before any real discussions could begin.
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Well I had to look into to this Amero thing to see if there was any truth to theory, so for the last couple days I got my hands on every piece of literature or video blog ever done on the subject. The press has reason to speculate considering the American Government isn't sharing any information concerning The North American Union with them or the rest of us (including the Amero) . All that's available is what is posted on Government sites and speculation from every corner of the planet. This Amero thing is what worries me the least, the fact that all three governments aren't sharing their proposed ideas is the key and more frightening issue concerning all three countries sovereignty.
O By the way - The one American News clip had the Skydome and CN Tower as our Defense Headquarters !
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
Look who is head of the report!...good old John Manley of the Liberals! It's NOT a coincidence there is no such thing in politics.
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I'm sorry you can't see the correlation between the Amero (our new currency), our emerging monetary policy, money supply and the effect all these factors will have on our paper money collection hobby. As a Canadian paper money enthusiast, I enjoy studying and discussing each and every aspect of paper money. To me it's a much broader topic than just the physical paper money aspect .......
Failing to see the correlation between paper money and this thread only leaves me perplexed as to how you do see a correlation between the Amero thread and the coin standards thread?
Of course the proposed Amero, the emerging monetary policy and the money supply will have some sort of impact on the paper money collection hobby but those same factors will surely have a similar sort of impact on everything else that we choose to buy as well, e.g., groceries, restaurant meals, real estate, furniture, clothes, automobiles, gasoline, airline tickets, books, coins, stocks & shares, etc. I can't see that the correlation to collectible paper money is any stronger or any weaker than the correlation to other commodities but maybe I'm missing the whole point here?
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You guys want to whine and complain? You get your threads closed.
Happy Wednesday.
Please keep threads relatively on-topic.