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Started by Rupiah - Last post by rocken

I tend to agree that the BSW notes are somewhat under priced in the last catalog.I happened upon one in Gem Unc ( perhaps the best known example) when they were first issued . I have been searching ever since and haven't seen any nor do I expect too  in the future. :(

Started by AL-Bob - Last post by Bob

You are quite right - thanks for reporting it.
Lots of copy and paste shortcuts were taken when the book had to be essentially rebuilt in newer software, and some shortcuts of course weren't correct.
A great many were caught during proofing but several escaped detection.
Probably the most serious are:
Barclays Bank 1929 issue, page 8, grade headings should be VG to UNC, not G to AU
Bank of Western Canada, page 536, ditto.

Started by AL-Bob - Last post by AL-Bob

Page 254 - The Merchants Bank of Halifax

20-18 should read $20 1898 but it seem like the row for 20-12 was copied instead.

4   General Forum Comments / Re: Rationailty in GPMC Pricing

on October 16, 2019, 11:22:55 pm

Started by Rupiah - Last post by walktothewater

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I think one reason for the price varience is that the BSW notes are still current-issue
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i dont think BSW will change much probably because there are so few around that we dont really have any good precise market trend yet.
- I think these are fairly good takes on Charlton's "cold feet" over $20 BSW and M/C $10 FTH (& $50 AMK).  I have never seen one listed for sale. I've seen they prefer to be conservative when assigning BV to later notes.

I would also like to add that it seems as if there's no one on the pricing panel who have taken notice (likely the "old guard"). M/C HAE $5 got tremendous hype as it was the $5 signature-change over that every collector seemed keen on getting one before the polymer. I knew a couple collectors from Quebec who found some and none wanted to sell their circulated HAE examples for less than $200-$300 when BV was $50 (years ago). I also felt the HAF-HAL $5 prefixes got a bit of a shaft from Charlton.  I met a pricing panel contributor who felt HAF & HAG were extremely common even though just half dozen bricks were likely discovered (as far as I know).  Not hard to get in UNC but HAH and HAL are quite tough.   

From most of the ol' time collectors I talked to, no one even seemed the least bit interested in the Frontiers polymer issue.  It will probably take some time (years), and a new generation of collectors before these scarce notes get due credit in the catalogue.

5   General Forum Comments / Re: Rationailty in GPMC Pricing

on October 16, 2019, 02:12:22 pm

Started by Rupiah - Last post by JB-2007

These are the prices listed in the 31st edition. The 32nd edition should be out anytime now. It will be interisting to see what the prices are at. But i dont think BSW will change much probably because there are so few around that we dont really have any good precise market trend yet.

6   What's It Worth? / Re: 1920 Newfoundland One Dollar Note

on October 16, 2019, 01:35:18 pm

Started by TheBurnz - Last post by AL-Bob

That's a beauty!  It appears to be a Renouf signature although the "f" is lost in the crease.  Couldn't find any quite as low in grade as yours but here are some comparisons that sold recently:

https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpapermoney.com/auction/61/public-torex-auction-feb-2018/session/125/lot/316

https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpapermoney.com/auction/81/public-rcna-auction-july-2019/session/173/lot/98

Interestingly there are a number of notes in the "340xxx" range that have survived.  The finest known is in this range and apparently so is the least-finest known.

7   What's It Worth? / Re: What Do You Think

on October 16, 2019, 01:10:51 pm

Started by TheBurnz - Last post by AL-Bob

That particular seller always asks the most inflated prices.  You can always make them an offer for 40% of what they are asking and hope for the best.  I did buy an item from them which did indeed ship from Toronto to my pleasant surprise.  They spared no expense on packaging either (came with a free iPad case!) which I guess is to be expected when you're paying 2-3x real world prices.

As for Charlton pricing for fancy serial numbers do yourself a favor and don't even open that section of the book as there is no bearing with reality whatsoever.  I don't think that section has been updated since before CUNC and GUNC were even grades that the catalogue recognized (thus their omission).

8   What's It Worth? / Re: What Do You Think

on October 16, 2019, 11:24:51 am

Started by TheBurnz - Last post by TheBurnz

Thank you for your input Wagner. Another point about that $10 note. When I pointed out that buyers could pay a duty fee when the item crosses the border. The response was that the item is coming from Toronto and there would be no duty fee.
Weird considering that the listing clearly says shipped from the United states.

9   What's It Worth? / Re: What Do You Think

on October 16, 2019, 11:11:08 am

Started by TheBurnz - Last post by wagnert89

Good morning, you bring up two good points:
1.  That A/M note is indeed not devil face note.  The holder is mislabeled and should read BC-37a-i.
2.  I interpret the book's back section, the special serial numbers, as the prices based on Unc-60 condition.  The book does mention to subtract certian grade percentages for circulated conditions.  It would be nice if the book clearifed this but maybe it left there purposely for dealers/sellers to use at their discretion to buy cheaper and then try to resell higher if the grades were choice or gem unc?

I saw that ten dollar note and it's unfortunate the pictures are not clearer but It sounds like the seller is using your typical US inflated grade selling point.

10   General Forum Comments / Re: Rationailty in GPMC Pricing

on October 16, 2019, 10:50:32 am

Started by Rupiah - Last post by wagnert89

I would say, as many others would probably agree, that quantity found is always an important factor; however, at this point it's something different (at least for now). 

I have seen two M-C HAE notes, in person, and both had rare serial numbers (solid number and a two digit radar) which adds a rarity multiplication factor.  I have not seen any EJE or BSW prefixes in person.

I think one reason for the price varience is that the BSW notes are still current-issue and there are some floating around in circulation.  Compare this to finding those Journey notes which are no longer available in circulation.  The journey note circulation removal and the time pasted suggest it's unlikely many new finds will occur unlike the BSW notes which are still available in circulation and the final amount will not be finalized until the frontier series is removed from circulation ( replaced with new design or cyrotocurrency).   Just my opinion  :)
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