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mmars
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« on: January 21, 2015, 09:08:50 pm »

The latest updated insert note ranges includes the following range:
$10 FTC 9.459 - 9.486  sheet replacement 27,000 notes

Could someone with access to the information please confirm that this range is correct.  Most of the new ranges are 9,000 notes in size, so I wonder if it is possible that the above range could, in fact, be FTC 9.459 - 9.468 instead.

Thank you.

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 11:40:57 pm »

That is the range shown in GPM27 and indeed shows a range of 27,000.  Triple run maybe?

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 07:48:29 pm »

This listing first appeared on Gilles list from March 2014 as 9458-9476 .... 18000 notes. The following list from May 2014 had the range as  9459-9486....
There was no note of a correction or any reason to support this change.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 10:27:42 pm »

Thank you for the clarification.  The possibility existed, I believed, for an error of transcription, which is why I brought the matter forward in the previous post.  Better to nip it in the bud than possibly let it go on and on in case there really was an error.  As we have seen recently with the 1954 series $50 and $100 notes, mistakes can go undetected and uncorrected for a very long time, and the passage of time builds precedence, making it that much harder to get at the truth.

A range of 27,000 notes would be 3 consecutive reams of 9,000 notes.  It was common in the past, when reams were much larger, for consecutive reams to be amalgamated into one serial number range.  It is much less frequent to see these smaller reams in clusters, though there is nothing unusual or wrong about it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 04:44:22 pm »



A range of 27,000 notes would be 3 consecutive reams of 9,000 notes. 

Who decides what is a ream?  ::) Can someone who is an expert give us a definition of a ream.

Just because BoC is printing a skip of 200 and 45 times 200 is 9000 does not mean that they are printing only 9000 in a single run. I would argue that the number of sheets being printed at the same time is about the same more or less as has previously been done.

So if the definition of a ream means the total number of notes printed at the same time then I think it would be erroneous to to suggest that the ream is 9000 notes. As a matter of fact I have personally experienced notes that straddle the 200 consecutive notes that would be suggested by a ream of 9000 with the same plate number in the same bundle not once not twice but a number of times that I have lost count of.

Personally I think the thought that a ream is 9000 is random and has no basis in any research that I have seen so far. Just my two cents worth. :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2015, 05:24:54 pm »

Who decides what is a ream?  ::) Can someone who is an expert give us a definition of a ream.

I have absolutely no intention of attempting to answer this question because I know it will only lead to having to define who is an "expert".

I suggest giving Gilles Pomerleau a call and asking him why insert note ranges all seem to be 9000 notes or multiples of 9000 notes.  Maybe that will shed some light on the importance of "ream" size.  Here's a link to Gilles' contact information:
http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/forum/index.php?topic=8812.0

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2015, 09:50:33 pm »



I suggest giving Gilles Pomerleau a call and asking him -----

Thank you - That's a good place to start.

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
 

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