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Topic: What's your definition of a "TROPHY NOTE"?  (Read 17792 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2006, 06:03:56 am »

Here's the fourth Trophy Note submitted by justeo. It's a $10 note of The Metropolitan Bank (Toronto) dated 1902 and signed by Moore at the left (Charlton #485-10-12). According to the Charlton catalogue only two fully-issued 1902 notes are known --- this one and one in an institutional collection. This note clearly exceeds the basic criteria of a "Trophy Note" (just check out its catalogue value!)

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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2006, 06:08:15 am »

Here's the fifth Trophy Note submitted by justeo. It's a $5 note of The Merchant's Bank of Canada (Montreal) dated 1900 and signed by H. Montagu Allan at the right (Charlton #460-14-04). It's in exceptional condition for this seldom seen issue.

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2006, 06:09:15 am »

And here's the beautiful reverse of the above Merchant's Bank of Canada note.

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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2006, 06:09:36 am »

So there we have it, 5 beautiful Trophy Notes submitted by our colleague justeo. Congratulations, justeo, on having been able to track down some of the rarest and most beautiful Canadian chartered bank notes!

It was a pleasure to have had the opportunity to present these rarities to Forum members on your behalf.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2006, 12:29:25 pm »

You could also define it some notes that you long long for.  afterall, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  In other words,  my trophy note likely is not your trophy note, or vice-versa.
is EVH w/o BPN a trophy note ?

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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2006, 01:28:22 pm »

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You could also define it some notes that you long long for.  afterall, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  In other words,  my trophy note likely is not your trophy note, or vice-versa. is EVH w/o BPN a trophy note ?

Yes, both beauty and trophy notes are in the eye of the beholder. However, I personally feel that for any note to be assigned the coveted title of "Trophy Note" it has to be an "eye popper" in some respect, it has to be rare, it has to be in above-average condition (not a rag, however rare it may be), and it has to be in strong demand, i.e., "The sort of note that many want to own but few want to part with".  In my book, a Trophy Note would be synonomous with a "museum piece", but "Each Unto His Own".

Many collectors who specialize in Bank of Canada notes or Dominion of Canada notes are not interested in chartered bank notes and vice versa. However, that should not really affect the definition of a Trophy Note.

I'm not sure exactly how many $20 1991 EVH w/o BPN notes are in existence but if it satisfies the definition of a Trophy Notes then it is a Trophy Note. However, if it's the sort of note that you could track down and purchase relatively easily by contacting the major dealers and collectors across the country then I would not regard it as a "true" Trophy Note. However, it could still be a "personal" trophy note in the eyes of its owner.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2006, 06:43:40 pm »

Just wanted to tell you all that you have EXTREAMLY nice notes. As a chartered note collector it gives me great pleasure to see some of the trophys from other peoples collection. As my collection grows I hope to aquire some of these peices to simply have pride of ownership. I do have a couple notes at the moment that could be considered trophies but may lack in one or two criteria.
I have a 1919 Banque Provincial $10 in aEF which only 7 are know and the best is EF. Altough many have put theirs on the market.
I also have a couple such as two 1913 RBC $10 in VF-EF (both signatures), an RBC 1927 $20 signed Neil - Hott  in VF (one of 14 with the best know as VF) and finaly a 1924 Bank of Nova Scotia $5 in UNC.

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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2006, 05:45:51 pm »

I know this may not be considered a trophy note by every one but I really wanted to share this with the groupe as I recently found this the other day.   ;D

Its the one and only 1853 Quebec Bank 5 Shillings. Until last month none were known to exist so this is a one of a kind note.

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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2006, 08:56:48 pm »

The "black & white" 1843-1862 issues of The Quebec Bank (Charlton #620-24 and #620-28) are rather complicated. Your note appears to be Charlton #620-28-02-02 ("No known issued notes)". If indeed it is the only known issued example then it is a major "Discovery Note". Moderator Bob, with whom you have no doubt already been in contact, would be able to provide more background on this important piece.

Generally speaking, the "black & white" notes of the 19th century are not particularly popular with most collectors at this time. However, being a Discovery Note, being a distinct type note (rather than just a town overprint variety) and being a complete note in decent condition for the issue, this could most certainly be classified as a Trophy Note in my opinion. The note's appearance could be improved a bit by carefully unrolling the "fold-overs" at the edges and corners ---- please don't wash and press it though!

Congratulations on landing this important note. It all goes to show that there are still some great finds to be made, even after 150 years!

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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2006, 10:01:32 pm »

I really don't think one can beat this as an error.

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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2006, 11:17:33 pm »

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I really don't think one can beat this as an error.
How 'bout this one Tom?  You might know the chap I bought it from... ;)





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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2006, 11:26:00 pm »

Yes indead.  As far as a real trophy replacement note cutting error, this one probably tops it.  As you know, replacements were used to replace errors.  I wonder what error this one replaced.

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2006, 05:43:00 pm »

That 1866 $10 note is just gorgeous.    I  recall reading somewhere that only three of them are known,  all on Montreal---is that still correct??   Is there anywhere one can get a nice sharp color picture of this note???
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