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rachelsprivates
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« on: September 22, 2007, 03:22:37 pm »

2002 (sic) $5 HOH0101010 GEM UNC
eBay item 290160974484
Finished at $255 USD

Did I miss something here?  When last I checked, 2-digit radars of the Journey series were going for under $100.  I know this is a repeater, and I know it's a scarcer 2004 HOH note (catalogues $50 in Gem)... but come on! $255??  Since when?  And there were two bidders at that level, not just one.

What do you think it's worth?

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007, 06:00:09 pm »

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Did I miss something here?

I don't think so.



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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 11:06:49 pm »

At first I tink dis was a naturally occurring H oh H but from da small scan I appeared like an H zero H which puts it into a rare alphanumeric error where da numerical zero was printed between the Hs instead of da Letter O. After saving the image, blowing up, cleaned up, repixelated the image of the prefix, and put down three beers I came to da conclusion that dis is only a manufactured error and da winner is likely crying in his beer.  :'(

Moral of da story: After a couple of drinks everything looks better.  ;)

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« Last Edit: September 22, 2007, 11:12:59 pm by Punkys Dad »

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 10:36:34 am »

I don't understand why it sold for so much either, I was watching it but gave up at $75.00. I guess it is nice to look at but really, it's not that nice to look at.

 There is another one that ends in 5 hours that I don't get either it's a 1937 $1 note in fine condition and the bidding is at $39.99?, the item # is  230172430482 do you see something I don't?


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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 10:59:29 am »

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do you see something I don't?

Serial # NN1336339 

1x3+3=6    1336 and 3x3=9  1336339
6 upside down is 9
9 upside down is 6
if you remove the 1 and the 9 it's a radar (33633) and by adding the two digits on the right or the left you get 6 which is the middle digit

What else could you what for under $40 bucks ;D

Almost forgot that the NN prefix is a radar prefix and

by adding all the digits 1+3+3+6+3+3+9 you get 28, then add 2+8 and you get 10, then add 1+0 and you get 1.  Amazingly it is a 1 dollar bill.

I bet your starting to think that this bill at this price is a deal :o





 
« Last Edit: September 23, 2007, 11:12:07 am by friedsquid »



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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 05:33:48 pm »

Ebay'ers are retarded.  I've been watching items over several years including electronics, books and videos and I can tell you they sell i many cases MUCH more than what they would cost on online stores.

Just the other day a wholeseller on there was selling 10(TEN) MP3 players  at a "buy now" price of 140$ each and was auctioning the other 10.  One of the auction players sold for 165$...WTF????...simply retarded especially when it's obselete and shouldn't be selling for more than $100!
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2007, 05:59:56 pm »


I suspect the sale price of this note is somewhat related to the fact that no more than about 220,000 of
the 2004 $5 Jenkins-Dodge, HOH changeover are believed to have been circulated.  These notes were
only seen for a short period and only by brick searchers in Quebec.  The highest number that has been
reported is under HOH 0220000.  As such, many believe that this note is extremely underpriced in the
catalogue and should be priced more in line with the 2001 $10 Knight-Dodge, FEE.

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2007, 07:40:39 pm »

But for $225US ($226CND)? come on.

I’ve seen this before. The pattern of the serial number or any written material expressing the alternating vertical lines and zeros or Os are similar to Nazi Geistahalt experiments,  Chilean Ministry of Internal Security in the 70s, and more recent, an unnamed high profile marketing firm in New York. They are a part of experiments in altered states of consciousness using subliminal unassociated suggestion and manipulation. It’s part of the oppressive pop culture media machinery, a system designed to create dependence on the ‘system’ and that’s why I don’t trust the Newspapers and television.
“If you hear a lie often enough, it will slowly become the ‘truth’.“
In this case a few susceptable people were taken by subtle manipulation using this technology.

I love it when you’re so malleable PD to a lady in need.
IOIOIOIOIOIO you will accept my petticoat as collateral for the DF note and you will look pretty cute in it too. IOIOIOIO

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« Last Edit: September 24, 2007, 01:46:26 am by Raven »
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 08:17:28 pm »

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suspect the sale price of this note is somewhat related to the fact that no more than about 220,000 of
the 2004 $5 Jenkins-Dodge, HOH changeover are believed to have been circulated.  These notes were
only seen for a short period and only by brick searchers in Quebec.  The highest number that has been
reported is under HOH 0220000.

I was just looking at the cat. and for the BC62b 2004 HOH prefix a GEM UNC shows $50.00. The 2005 changeover begins at 5970000.  I am understanding that no HOH 2004 notes from 0220000-5970000 have been found to anyones knowledge?



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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 08:42:22 pm »

That's correct, Nothing over 220k has been reported.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2007, 10:14:57 pm »

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I suspect the sale price of this note is somewhat related to the fact that no more than about 220,000 of
the 2004 $5 Jenkins-Dodge, HOH changeover are believed to have been circulated.  These notes were
only seen for a short period and only by brick searchers in Quebec.  The highest number that has been
reported is under HOH 0220000.  As such, many believe that this note is extremely underpriced in the
catalogue and should be priced more in line with the 2001 $10 Knight-Dodge, FEE

I would have to agree with this assessment.  I searched a lot of circulated fives back when the HOH came out and couldn't find one 2004.  I ended up buying 2 at $40 each (and the seller was not flexible with the price because he had such a hard time buying them too).   I think this prefix is severely under-valued in the book right now.  I think the same can be said for the $10 2003 BEP (at $60) which only a few members seem to have found in UNC.

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 01:05:36 am »

We all readily accept that supply and demand are the forces that govern the final price of any item.
However, there is an other factor we often overlook.
Case #1
Say there are three thousand prefix collectors vying for a specific prefix held by forty individuals each with 100 notes. The demand is there, and the supply is more than enough to meet the demand.
Case #2
Now let us say the three thousand prefix collectors are vying for a specific prefix held by two individuals each with 2000 notes. The demand has not changed and the supply is still more than enough to meet the demand.

The price of the note in case #1 will be considerably lower than in case #2, due to "Seller" competition for buyers.

The HOH 2004 may have been a low printing, but several individuals obtained and held bricks of them. There is no lack of supply, so the price is fair.

The Thiessen-Crow BDH $10 Bird issue has a printing of about four times that of the HOH 2004, but no one obtained a whole brick, hence its price.
The Knight-Thiessen BEF $10 Bird issue has a printing of about half that of the Thiessen-Crow BDH $10 Bird, but several people obtained a whole brick, hence its price.

The BEP and BER 2004 are scarcer than the catalogue price would have us believe. They are scarcer than the BET, but are held by more people in small quantities.

Just a thought!
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2007, 06:40:45 pm »

I have read all your post and there are some very good observations and arguments.

I for one would just have passed it as a fluke. Two bidders fed up with always loosing meeting up on the same note and bidding in values they never taught would be reached. It has also been know that items with many bids may attract higher prices, some would even bid not knowing what their buying just knowing there is demand.

I would be interested in knowing if the buyer even paid?

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