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Topic: Horizontal band in Journey Notes Hologram Strip + Ghost Images  (Read 5222 times)
Rupiah
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« on: December 28, 2012, 01:35:43 am »

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Two close-up images are shown below.

I have frequently seen a horizontal band that spans the width of the hologram strip on journey notes (seen it on 5, 10 and 20- not seen enough 50 and 100 journey to verify its existence). Whenever the band exists there are two conditions that are always present:

a) it runs approximately starting from the "D" in CANADA
b) the distance between the adjacent "5" in the hologram immediately above the band is greater than the distance between the adjacent "5" in any other part of the hologram (see image below)

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This band is common (in a bundle I have typically found 3-5 notes with this band). I am interested in finding out the reason for the band. I would not consider this an error but could this be a "variety"? I have not found any information on this so far. Have I missed any discussion on this?


Also I have frequently seen "white ghost" marks on journey notes. In this example there is a "J" near  the FPN. This is almost an AU note and I am happy to provide a very high resolution scan to anyone who wonders if this may possibly happen post-production of the note. I have seen interesting images being formed because of this ghosting in other notes. I think this happens when there is some dirt on the paper during printing which leaves an area without ink.

I would love to hear from anyone else who has experienced this. See image below.

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Thank you


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Weeles
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 05:29:25 pm »

To me it looks like the start and end of the hologram strip printed on the paper. I also have $5' s with this happening.

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Rupiah
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 07:01:09 pm »

To me it looks like the start and end of the hologram strip printed on the paper. I also have $5' s with this happening.

It would seem that way. However why would they transition a strip close to a "D" in Canada as opposed to in a rather inconspicuous location.

So far I have found the horizontal band is located exactly in the same location relative to the other elements of the hologram strip in all the notes where I have seen it (approximately about 50 notes). It must be noted that the hologram itself relative to the other elements of the note has variable positions. So the band occurs at different locations relative to other elements of the note itself. In fact this creates some interesting design on some of the notes.

If anyone is interested in this topic let me know I can post some images to show examples

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 08:57:19 pm »

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Also I have frequently seen "white ghost" marks on journey notes. In this example there is a "J" near  the FPN. This is almost an AU note and I am happy to provide a very high resolution scan to anyone who wonders if this may possibly happen post-production of the note. I have seen interesting images being formed because of this ghosting in other notes. I think this happens when there is some dirt on the paper during printing which leaves an area without ink.

I would love to hear from anyone else who has experienced this. See image below.

{http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5835/hpt0176986fj.jpg:http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5835/hpt0176986fj.th.jpg}


Thank you



These white marks are nothing new.  We've seen these frequently in the past, and they seem to be caused by dirt/debris/whatever getting on the printing drums, not the paper.  Although, the error would look pretty much the same if it was caused by dirt/debris/whatever on the paper.

Here's an older thread showing some $10 notes with all kinds of white marks...
http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/forum/index.php?topic=10161.0

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Rupiah
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 10:04:35 pm »

These white marks are nothing new. 

Thank you for the link. I am collecting the ones with fancy white marks.

I found one similar to the white marks on the link you provided on a $50 polymer. It is on the back side where the icebreaker is and I call it the piece of ice from the icebreaker  :)

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