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Rupiah
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« on: January 07, 2013, 10:34:00 pm »

And now that the NHL parties have settled and the games will resume here is a two-starred hockey blade on the stick of our coveted $5 journey note (This is rather common if you look for it but it only happens in certain prefixes)

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 07:31:05 pm »

That is the first time that I have seen that there is a difference in the hockey stick.  Do you know which prefixes have this difference.

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 03:20:25 am »

Do you know which prefixes have this difference.

I have been monitoring the $5 journey prefixes. I have now gone through over a 2000 notes but only recorded about a 1000 (not including sequential notes i.e. from bundles) and there is a pattern emerging. It mostly happens with HP_ prefix. However within HP_ there are certain prefixes where it is not happening and there are certain prefixes where it seems to be happening most of the times and there are many prefixes where it happens for some numbers and not for others.

With a naked eye you can visually make this out very easily as two white spots. The colour on the upper part of the stick is always sparse when you have these white spots.

If there is interest in this forum I would be happy to provide details of my findings. If one goes by the culture in coin collection this would very likely be considered a variety as its occurence is almost predictable i.e. there is a pattern to this.

Of course 1000 notes does not make the population but assuming that these notes were randomly collected (which they are because they are all circulated notes)  and have a good representation of variety of current and almost current prefixes then 1000 notes may provide some statistical basis to make a prediction with a sense of certainty.



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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 10:44:00 pm »

Yes, let's see your findings please.



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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 09:16:51 pm »

Yes, let's see your findings please.

I will put them in some order and post them here shortly.

Thx

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 11:53:50 pm »

And now that the NHL parties have settled and the games will resume here is a two-starred hockey blade on the stick of our coveted $5 journey note (This is rather common if you look for it but it only happens in certain prefixes)

{http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5125/stickstar2m.jpg:http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5125/stickstar2m.th.jpg}

A while ago I put this image up with the blade of the hockey stick showing two stars. I have been cataloging a lot of 5's to see if there is a pattern. So far I have noticed it only in the HP_ prefixes.

If anyone has HPA, HPV and HPZ can I request you to kindly check your notes and see if you can spot the two dots on the stick. Under the magnifier you should see those dots clearly as starburst pattern as seen in the image in the original post. The dots are very distinct and happen despite the variation in colour in the stick. They happen in sticks that are dark blue and they happen in sticks that are light blue. They can also happen in sticks that exhibit a slight whitish pattern at the outer edge of the blade.

It would seem that the dots are a result of  missing ink at these spots. The blades seem to be printed with a flower like pattern. When the cetre of the flower does not get printed we get the starburst effect.

The question is why always at those two spots (actually there are two other spots where the ink is left out everytime it is left out at the blade - which I am still investigating) and why in such a consistent manner. If anyone has a printing background and can provide an explanation that would be most helpful. I believe the back of the note is all lithograph except for the bars and the numbers.

If you have HPA, HPV and HPZ which have the two dots I would appreciate if you can post the Serial number and the plate numbers if you have them.

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 02:36:39 pm »

Yes- HPF have it (see below).  Fortunately I got a few regular HPF notes which have several poorly printed prefixes & first 2 eights of their serial numbers. 

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 02:49:44 pm »

Here the "stars" are even more dramatic on the HPF insert HPF9817650.  You can easily see the dots with the naked eye (compared to the HPF8864090 posted previously)

{http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8320/hpf9817650.jpg:http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8320/hpf9817650.th.jpg}

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2013, 03:13:38 pm »

Not seen in any HPA (81223372,8617733,9673572,9878609), HPT0001690, or 2011HAF8660033

Not visible in HPS below:
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 03:49:28 pm »

Hey,

 Never noticed them marks before, just checked the $5's I have on hand and those mark are on the HPK,HPJ,HPG.  Now here is an interesting one I have 2 HPD notes, HPD 7321225 has those marks BUT HPD 4843103 doesn't. Wow does that mean I have a VERY RARE journey $5 with the OHL hockey stick. LOLOLOLOL

 Wayne.

Been collecting few bills for about 15 years but now getting into more serious collecting.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2013, 09:44:57 pm »

Here the "stars" are even more dramatic on the HPF insert HPF9817650.  You can easily see the dots with the naked eye (compared to the HPF8864090 posted previously)

{http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8320/hpf9817650.jpg:http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8320/hpf9817650.th.jpg}

Thank you I have made a note of it. Do you have an HPF without stars?

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2013, 10:05:33 pm »

Wow does that mean I have a VERY RARE journey $5 with the OHL hockey stick. LOLOLOLOL

 Wayne.

A pattern is emerging in my research and stars although common on some prefixes may indeed be uncommon on some other prefixes. I have been cataloging this artifact and have looked at over a 1000 notes. I have narrowed it down to HP? prefix. I have so far not seen it in HA? prefix and none of the A?? prefix.

I guess ultimately the value depends on what people are willing to pay and from what I understand it does not excite people. So hang on to your day job. ;)

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2013, 10:08:21 pm »

just checked the $5's I have on hand and those mark are on the HPK,HPJ,HPG. 

 Wayne.
Are you able to PM me with the serial numbers of the HPK, HPJ and HPG that have the marks.

Thank you

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2013, 11:05:52 am »

   I only collect $5 mainly so I looked through many of them.
The only one I could find with the star  stick is HPP 3434331 49/35.
Good luck in your search.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2013, 11:59:10 am »

   I only collect $5 mainly so I looked through many of them.
The only one I could find with the star  stick is HPP 3434331 49/35.
Good luck in your search.

Darn you missed a radar and a repeater by 12 notes or maybe you got lucky and got a bunch of continuous notes :(

Thank you so much taking the time to look and sharing the information.

If I may ask you to check one other thing.

In terms of the $5 notes without stars would you be able to verify which ones in your collection beginning with prefix HP do not have stars. In other words can I assume that you have for example HPA, HPB all the way to HPZ and all of them do not have stars other then HPP 3434331.

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