Author
Topic: All Star Hockey Stick on $5 - In Celebration of NHL settlement  (Read 42339 times)
Wizard1
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 600
  • Peanut Butter Jelly Time,Peanut Butter Jelly Time!
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2013, 05:23:34 pm »

HPF 8748478  YES
HPF 8845488  YES
HPB 9756955  NO
HPW 9570759 NO
HPW 8995998 NO
HPW 8795978 NO

I will check the other block of $5 notes that I have (NO... I do NOT store them at home)

cownick
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 12
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2013, 11:06:10 am »

I sure wish you found this a year ago but I found another book.
HPP 3399097, 3495087 yes
HPR 5699626 yes
HPS 0605334 yes
HPV 9334312 no
cheers.
walktothewater
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,391
  • Join the Journey
    • Notaphylic Culture
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2013, 11:56:57 am »

Quote
HPP 3399097, 3495087 yes
HPR 5699626 yes

Don't see them on HPR 2185397,98,99 or HPR 2209202
Quote
HPS 0605334 yes
(and not seen on the HPS I posted an image of earlier)

Wizard1
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 600
  • Peanut Butter Jelly Time,Peanut Butter Jelly Time!
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2013, 03:02:17 pm »

HPB 9816954-55 NO

Weeles
  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Posts: 59
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2013, 03:45:15 pm »

AAR 5897731 yes. FPN 78 BPN 58
HAE 5626230 no, FPN 15 BPN 37

Been collecting few bills for about 15 years but now getting into more serious collecting.

Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2013, 10:45:21 pm »

(NO... I do NOT store them at home)

thx a bunch - no rush :)

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
rocken
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 236
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2013, 11:43:53 pm »

HPT 2445803 yes

Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2013, 11:54:40 pm »

Thank you to all those who have shared the information about the condition of the hockey stick on the $5 journey notes. To date I have gone through over 2,500 notes (not including those that are continuous) and thought I would share some preliminary findings:

There have been no stars on the notes whose prefix do  not belong in the HPA to HPZ range.

Within the above I have had very little (almost none) sample of the new HAE to HAL notes. I have had a reasonable sample of HAA to old HAE notes but even there the sample size as a percentage of total notes reviewed is low to be definitive. However I do feel that any star note in the HAA to old HAE prefix might be a rare sight.

Within the above I have had high samples of the notes produced by BABN and I am ready to conclude with high level of certainty that notes with those prefix will not display a star - It should be noted that the star is considered a distinct artifact and it is not simple a result of different shade of ink. In other words all notes display variation in colour intensity and contrast and even within that the existence of star is unique i.e. there are dark blades with star and light blades with star etc.

So finally narrowing down to HPA to HPZ. I have seen each and every prefix and generally the percentage of each prefix I have seen in my sample seems to correspond to the percentage of each prefix reported in the SNDB as a total of all reported within that range. Within each prefix I have seen a range of serial numbers from the 1.00  and below to 9.00 and above. There are some exceptions.

The following seem to stand out:

There are no stars in the HPA, HPV and HPZ prefix. Since a large volume of these prefixes are out in circulation and I have seen a range of them I would be very surprised to see stars in these prefixes. If someone has them and would like to report them I would love to see the images.

Within the other prefixes of the HPA-HPZ there are notes in certain serial number ranges that distinctly have stars and others where there are distinctly no stars. I am still trying to figure out a pattern to this.

Some other observations to be noted:

In sequentially numbered notes all of the times the same conditions exists i.e. if one note had stars others had them too and vice-versa. I have seen sequences as long as 75 consecutive notes.

Also stars are not limited by position numbers. I have seen them with all position numbers.

What does this all mean? For me I am still curious to find out the cause for the stars. My research indicates that it is highly unlikely that the existence of stars is a result of variations in ink intensity. It has to do with the printing process. I think it has the potential to demonstrate that not all notes may have been produced in a logical sequence of their prefix-serial number combination.

Is it possible that HPA, HPV and HPZ were produced at one time? Would that matter? I think only time will tell.

I am still continuing with this just for my own curiosity and I am learning a lot about notes, the finer details about registration and I am also getting a good insight into the circulation of notes in my region.

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
venga50
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 514
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 04:09:39 pm »

Just noticed those stars on one of my fivers and it reminded me of your research, so here goes:

{http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2493/65310499.jpg:http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2493/65310499.th.jpg}

HPM8858058, FP 51 BP 32

I guess it still remains a mystery to all of us as to why we have this variation on the hockey sticks.  :-[

Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2013, 06:39:43 pm »


I guess it still remains a mystery to all of us as to why we have this variation on the hockey sticks.  :-[

Thank you for the information. Indeed it is a mystery. I am still looking for stars in HPA, HPV and HPZ.

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
La Loutre
  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2013, 09:44:58 pm »

Thank you for sharing your researches, Rupiah!
I was not aware of that variety of 5$.

I found one of these 5$ "All star hockey stick" today.

#HPM 5587832   FPN 44  BPN 34
Lamb
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 120
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2013, 11:44:24 pm »

hi, Rupiah
i don't know this is good  news or not.   i have a stack (40ish) of unc or au of $5 with me (i got them this morning)  most of them are HPY around 2.5 to 2.6 M and  HPK 4.7 to 4.8 m.  all of their sticks have stars!   seeing that, i don't think of checking further.

John
Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2013, 07:19:11 pm »

hi, Rupiah
most of them are HPY around 2.5 to 2.6 M and  HPK 4.7 to 4.8 m.  all of their sticks have stars!   seeing that, i don't think of checking further.


The range is huge 100,000 in each case but based on my data all notes in that range would be expected to have stars.

I have reached a point in my research where I can predict with 75% accuracy whether a certain note in the HP? prefix will have a star or not based on its prefix and serial number. My accuracy increases to 85% if I am able to see the back of the note but with the stick covered.

The star effect happens because of missing ink in some microprinting pattern that is used in the back of the note. The fact that the ink is missed in precisely the same location in almost a predictable fashion is intriguing. I have no answer to explain the reason for it although one can assume that it is related to some aspect of printing.

Finally in research all facts are good news. I am not hung up on any theory one way or the other but I have gotten a kick out of doing this and in the process I have learnt a lot of intricate details about the design of our notes.

So thank you

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2013, 08:18:47 pm »


I found one of these 5$ "All star hockey stick" today.

#HPM 5587832   FPN 44  BPN 34

Thx for sharing the information.

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
Rupiah
  • Very Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2013, 09:58:16 pm »

I am still looking for a "starred" note in the following prefix:

HPA
HPT
HPV
HPZ
HAA
HAB
HAC
HAD
HAE (2010)

If you have seen them please let me know. I hope I do not have to offer a reward for these  ;)

Thx

Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
 

Login with username, password and session length