Value of notes 1914 $20 BoM and 1914 $100

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Hi all!
 Unfortunately I haven't yet "the Charlton Standard Catalogue of Canadian Government Paper Money" and I will ask to evaluate several of my banknotes:
 1914 $ 20 Bank of Montreal and
 1914 $100 Bank of Montreal  series A # 000565 image may give in a few days.
Thank you

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You will not find your notes in the Charlton Government Paper Money catalogue.  That's because they were not issued by a government.  They were issued by a private chartered bank.  Hence you need the much thicker and heavier Charlton catalogue of Canadian Bank Notes.  I will say that 1914 Bank of Montreal notes are rising in popularity and you want to be careful what you do with them, particularly if they have manuscript signatures.

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Yes I know that these notes of a private bank, a specialized catalog I don't have, so decided to ask on the Forum ...
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Can anyone else say opinion costs, 67 views and only mmars responded.
To mmars : respekt: 
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And  1923 $20
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And  1923 $20
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1914 $20 looks to be in fine condition... book has it at $250
1914 $100 VG - $1600
1923 $20 F - $210

Unfortunately, the ink mark on the front of the hundred will turn off a lot of prospective buyers.

Unfortunately, the ink mark on the front of the hundred will turn off a lot of prospective buyers.

The 1914 $100 is a rare note.  A little ink mark is not going to affect the desirability alone.  What IS going to hurt the value considerably is the fact that these notes look highly processed, particularly the $100 as the handwritten signature is completely missing, likely from being washed off.  Even really low grade notes don't lose their signatures that easily if they were never wetted.

Ink marks only hurt the value of more common notes.  Nobody who wants a 1914 $100 note is going to turn down the opportunity to buy one because of a small ink mark.  The wait for another note to come to market may be years.

$ 100 1 1914 really doesn't have a signature ...
I did not erase the banknote, and the dealer from whom I bought it, too, had not done so.
Assuming that someone erased a banknote or banknote processing to chemical means, why all the other signatures are present? I think no one will ever know about this ...

The banknote actually looks better than the scan.
 
 The story is about how I bought these notes ....
In 1998 I met at a fair familiar dealer, who said today that he could offer me $ 20 Canadian banknote BoM in 1914 and 1923 number 118 pieces.
and he agreed to sell them to me, but only together. I bought all 118 pieces of banknotes and only one Bill was $ 100 1914:)

$ 100 1 1914 really doesn't have a signature ...
I did not erase the banknote, and the dealer from whom I bought it, too, had not done so.
Assuming that someone erased a banknote or banknote processing to chemical means, why all the other signatures are present? I think no one will ever know about this ...

The banknote actually looks better than the scan.
 
 The story is about how I bought these notes ....
In 1998 I met at a fair familiar dealer, who said today that he could offer me $ 20 Canadian banknote BoM in 1914 and 1923 number 118 pieces.
and he agreed to sell them to me, but only together. I bought all 118 pieces of banknotes and only one Bill was $ 100 1914:)

Look, if you're convinced you know everything about these notes, then I'm not going to try to convince you of anything else.  The 1914 series of notes has two issues.  The earlier notes were hand signed on the left panel by a cashier issuing the note.  Later, the notes were modified so that both the signatures of the General Manager and President were typed onto the notes prior to issue.  This is not my opinion, it is a proven FACT.  If you had a note with the handwritten signature intact, you would be able to tell the difference.

Handwritten ink is very easy to remove compared to the inks used to print the notes.  People have been washing and pressing old notes for decades.  That's how signatures get erased.  I know I personally find it hard to believe that so many people thought it would be a good idea to add bleach or soap to a note and let it stew for a while.  Even more confounding is that some of these people didn't bother rinsing the smell out of the notes.  I think once they saw the manuscript signature evaporate before their eyes, they probably decided they did enough damage for one day and dried the note as soon as possible.

Anyhow, my opinion of the condition of your notes has not changed.  Indeed, pressing and washing are specifically done for the purposes of making notes look better than they really are.  But even without having your notes in person, I can readily see that they look processed, and that will have a big impact on what price you can hope to achieve by selling.  You can vouch for the dealer all you want, it doesn't change a thing.  Stories add nothing to the value of your notes.

You're welcome.

 Mmars To:
 I am very pleased that you have devoted time and attention to my post, and responded to it like no other ....
Yes I have some knowledge about Canadian bank notes, but I am sure that you may have them a little more, it is about Canadian bank notes (you specialize in the study of Canadian banknotes?!), my specialization is not specific to any one country but to the entire world and these banknotes study I've been doing for over 25 years.

Practice shows that for some countries the banknotes of standard catalog "Standard Catalog of World Paper Money" needed a little opinion of colleagues who can give answers exactly how much does the Bill today!
 "Standard Catalog of World Paper Money" is good that the author described nearly all information about paper money all over the world in the entire history of their existence (thanks to him), the directory is updated annually, but sometimes it makes mistakes evaluating banknotes with which many disagree, sometimes expensive price for a banknote is understated and overstated for cheap, and those mistakes are reprinted year after year. True and real price may show only auction, and we know that the price of the item sold very often does not match the value specified in the catalogue for this reason I wrote it was on Canadian Paper Money Forum.

By publishing my post it was not my purpose to argue about the status of bills, which I bought, and they are there. I found it very important to hear your opinion on the value of the banknotes, about the real cost.

The answer I received. Thank you.
 Visiting the Forum I met topics and posts, in which banknotes are concerned with errors, experimental and replacement series.
 I too interesting.
 I am sure that we will be friends, and we will help each other 
See you again...

 

The 1914 $100 is a rare note.  A little ink mark is not going to affect the desirability alone.  What IS going to hurt the value considerably is the fact that these notes look highly processed, particularly the $100 as the handwritten signature is completely missing, likely from being washed off.  Even really low grade notes don't lose their signatures that easily if they were never wetted.

Ink marks only hurt the value of more common notes.  Nobody who wants a 1914 $100 note is going to turn down the opportunity to buy one because of a small ink mark.  The wait for another note to come to market may be years.

A visible ink mark through the serial number on the front of a note affects desirability.  Any visible blemish will to some degree, and this one is not exactly microscopic.  I won't buy a note with an ink mark.

A visible ink mark through the serial number on the front of a note affects desirability.  Any visible blemish will to some degree, and this one is not exactly microscopic.  I won't buy a note with an ink mark.

Then it is settled.  You wont buy the note because it has extra ink, and I will not buy it because it has missing ink.  Either way, I'm still right. 

Then it is settled.  You wont buy the note because it has extra ink, and I will not buy it because it has missing ink.  Either way, I'm still right. 

  Yes, both of you are right! Without a doubt, if you are not satisfied with the condition of the banknote does not buy it. ...
Now we're talking about 100 years about banknote. The banknote was shaking without pity (rain, snow, Sun), and when the US is only as old as Bill, I don't know how we will look like:)
Personally, I have my way of collecting, of course, I buy the banknotes in Fine, Very Fine, Unc, but not always so. There are bills which are rare at UNC, National Currency US 1902 series for example. They are interested in me and I am very pleased to buy them in any condition, even in Poor and without signatures (if I don't have the numbers of the Bank).
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Or banknotes of Mongolia.
Mongolia is a magical and wonderful country, old banknotes of Mongolia are very Rare and promising in collecting. God smiled at me once, and I bought 10 tugrik Rare 1925 in very fine condition. Banknotes of Mongolia, for the best condition, the UNC never them.
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Now I'm considering offer to purchase 50 tugrik 1925 in Poor condition and I definitely buy because I don't know and no one knows when or even whether such a Bill would buy it

In conclusion, I should like to say that all people are different and all have a different way of collecting (which relate to the conditions of banknotes) ... Ibrooks I would like to find 100 1914 without ink on banknote and banknote signed by mmars, and may God smile on you and your luck will be with you ...
We're friends

I would like to find 100 1914 without ink on banknote and banknote signed by mmars, and may God smile on you and your luck will be with you ...
We're friends

God really smiled on you. I believe here is the note you are looking for 1914 $100 Bank of Montreal - No ink + Signature

http://www.icollector.com/1914-Bank-of-Montreal-100_i16141495

Good luck. If you are in a good mood you can send me the finders fee