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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2014, 11:33:15 pm »

And for those among us who are collectors of world bank note errors we now have the very rare inverted back design note from Spain.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/MAJOR-ERROR-INVERTED-BACK-Spain-Banco-De-Espana-1928-Fifty-Pesetas-Banknote-AU-/121296796171?pt=Paper_Money&hash=item1c3dda3a0b&_uhb=1

Coincidentally it is from the same seller that offered us the Canadian $1 inverted back design error.

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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2015, 01:25:26 pm »

I have seen two of these note this past weekend at the Toronto Coin Expo. Both note examined were forged error notes. The notes have been split apart, the back turned around to give the appearance of being inverted and then glued back together. Splitting notes id nothing new, and has been seen before. Beware of these notes.

Another example currently on eBay but this time its an inverted back with a cut out of register error (eBay item # 181816074571).

Makes me wonder if the recently discovered $2 Bird EGU cut out of register "good-over" is another creative forgery.

   
   

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2015, 01:38:53 pm »

Another example currently on eBay but this time its an inverted back with a cut out of register error (eBay item # 181816074571).

Makes me wonder if the recently discovered $2 Bird EGU cut out of register "good-over" is another creative forgery.

Now I am convinced that the 1986 Bird $2 EGU cut out of register "good-over" is a forgery.   ???

I just discovered it was sold on eBay by the same seller who is selling the 1973 $1 inverted back design error (see eBay item # 181776541539)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1986-Canada-Cutting-Error-Paper-money-UNUSED-/181776541539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a52b9e763

Coincidence ?  I doubt it.   Another example of "if its too good to be true, then it probably isn't".

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2015, 04:24:11 pm »

The quality of these forgeries is simply astounding.  :o

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2015, 07:55:54 pm »

The quality of these forgeries is simply astounding.  :o

Is it just in the images that these notes look astounding or is it also when in hand. I simply cannot wrap my head around the fact that a note can be split, then put back together and leave no physical evidence etc.

It would seem that this may be easier done with notes that were in sheets. Perhaps a whole sheet was split and then put together again and then the notes were cut with sharp corners to give it a appearance of a pristine note????


Wonder what paper money would say if it could talk?
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2015, 10:03:44 pm »

I simply cannot wrap my head around the fact that a note can be split, then put back together and leave no physical evidence etc.
There is physical evidence.  For example, embossing would give the game away, but the fakers are sharp enough to realize this and press all the embossing out before putting their wares on the market.  There are other ways to detect the fraud but I'm a bit reluctant to explain on a public forum lest the bad guys see it and try to figure out some means to hide the evidence, though I do not imagine it could be easily accomplished.
Congratulations to Canada-banknotes who made the connection with the EGU "discovery" - excellent work!
Whole or part sheets have nothing to do with the case, other than to facilitate out of register concoctions.

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2015, 09:16:35 pm »

The same $1 error is back up again. Item # 121815150424

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2015, 12:42:47 am »

The same $1 error is back up again. Item # 121815150424

Same manufactured banknote error, same US seller but different serial number. 

Previous eBay Listing:

     
     
     
Current eBay Listing:

     
     
     
And we don't want to leave the world banknote error collector out so here is another Gem from the same seller.

     

 

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2015, 06:41:01 am »

Same manufactured banknote error, same US seller but different serial number. 

Previous eBay Listing:

     
     
     

Actually the one that is up for sale is the original one you mentioned at the beginning of this thread that sold for $2325.

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2015, 08:48:18 am »

Actually the one that is up for sale is the original one you mentioned at the beginning of this thread that sold for $2325.

So its actually a 1973 Duplicate Serial Number Inverted Back Design error (BC-46a-E19-E27).   ???

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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2015, 05:08:02 pm »

There is another one on ebay

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