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Rupiah
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« on: October 04, 2017, 09:53:07 pm »


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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 12:57:57 pm »

I hadn't noticed how uncommon GHD M-Cs were until you pointed it out. For what it's worth, my records indicate I've only seen 2, and they're both to the high end of the range - 46- and 47-. Compared to 29 W-P of roughly the same size range, that is odd indeed. I will certainly let you know if I find another one (and probably keep it while I'm at it)
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 01:24:57 pm »

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Again the implications are that GHD M-C was printed in two separate runs. It may be a stretch to say this at this time but it may turn out that the numbers of GHD M-C printed may be much lower than otherwise indicated by the present serial number range of close to 5000000 (5.0)

I agree: M-C GHD was not a full run. I have not worked out the specifics & cannot help you in terms of speculating what happened to this prefix numbering.

I have searched a large number of $50 notes and only came across 3.  One, unfortunately, I put back into circulation. 

The other two are:
GHD 4742413 39 39
GHD 4756371 06 06

Hope this can shed some light.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 05:32:15 pm »

I agree: M-C GHD was not a full run. I have not worked out the specifics & cannot help you in terms of speculating what happened to this prefix numbering.

The other two are:
GHD 4742413 39 39
GHD 4756371 06 06

Hope this can shed some light.

So if the two notes you mention were printed as normal PN-Serial Number combinations then:

GHD 4742413 would have a PN of 07 07 and not 39 39 as it actually is and

GHD 4756371 would have a PN of 24 24 and not 06 06 as actually is.

The PN on the notes you have reported are consistent for the GHD M-C in that range.

The PN on the notes that have been reported with serials below 0.1 follow a different PN-Serial Number combination indicating that they would have had to be printed as different starting position and most likely at different times.


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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 12:09:35 am »

This is also the case for several other prefixes in all denominations of this current series. I have noticed many incomplete runs and gaps.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 11:14:48 am »

This is also the case for several other prefixes in all denominations of this current series. I have noticed many incomplete runs and gaps.

Would you be able to share the specific prefixes where you have found similar situation?

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 10:27:39 am »

I believe that CBN may have printed two serial number ranges for 540,000 GHD M-C notes. Under "Journey Series Mega Sequences" (see Wiki article http://wiki.cdnpapermoney.com/index.php?title=Journey_Series_Mega-Sequences  )

The low range is probably up to 0180000 and the higher range probably 4900999 to 4540999.

If CBN Layout 8 is reversed (or flipped vertically so that what was right is now left and vice versa/with position A3 the same):
1         2        3         4           5
A 0101     11 11  21 21   31 31    41 41
B 02 02    12 12  22 22   32 32    42 42
C 03 03    13 13  23 23   33 33    43 43
etc to row "I"
-this may account for the new PN pattern.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 11:11:08 pm »

I believe that CBN may have printed two serial number ranges for 540,000 GHD M-C notes. Under "Journey Series Mega Sequences" (see Wiki article http://wiki.cdnpapermoney.com/index.php?title=Journey_Series_Mega-Sequences  )

The low range is probably up to 0180000 and the higher range probably 4900999 to 4540999.

If CBN Layout 8 is reversed (or flipped vertically so that what was right is now left and vice versa/with position A3 the same):
1         2        3         4           5
A 0101     11 11  21 21   31 31    41 41
B 02 02    12 12  22 22   32 32    42 42
C 03 03    13 13  23 23   33 33    43 43
etc to row "I"
-this may account for the new PN pattern.


I am  not sure if the actual observed notes support the flipping of the position number matrix.

What they support is there were two separate runs with a distinct break in serial numbering. This has also been noticed with some other prefixes. One such example that I have recorded is HBV.




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