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walktothewater
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« on: October 23, 2021, 03:42:10 pm »

It's been three years since the Vertical Tens appeared and no more prefixes have been released for the old Frontiers $10 Polymer.

The lowest M-C FTH happens to be #6706164 from Edmonton & the highest reported is #8343633 from Sarnia, Ontario. The Bank of Canada change over is reported as FTH 8364999 & then its Macklem-Poloz signature.

With 13 notes reported on the SNDB, should there not be some acknowledgement in Charlton that this has been a short/difficult change-over to track, (or some such comment if they cannot comment otherwise)? 

Thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2022, 09:47:12 am »

Today, April 3rd, I just added FTH 8459782 to the SNDB. I have added 2 8.38M M-P notes but they were (sadly) the Macklem-Poloz variety.

This brings the # of Macklem-Poloz FTH to 675. The Charlton BV remains high on this note.

The # of Macklem-Carney FTH remains unchanged at 13. The Charlton BV remains extraordinarily low on this rarely reported note.

I have added over 64,000 notes to the SNDB & I haven't seen one.  While it is true that I have added many $20 & $5 serial numbers, the majority of the data (probably 80%) would come from TENS which is what I most often search.

If you execute a RAW enquiry on the SNDB, you will find:
2 notes were found in the 6.7M-6.8M range;
5 notes were found in the 8.000-8.044 range;
1 note had a SN of 8.127 range
3 notes in the 8.22 - 8.26 range
2 notes in the 8.32 - 8.34 range
(13 notes)
[Note there have been NO M-C FTH serial numbers reported between 0 - 6,000,000 (6M). There have been no notes reported between 6.0 - 6.7M nor any between 6.9M - 8M].

I do hope that the Pricing Panel or Editors of Charlton will address the oversight of the scarcity of the M-C FTH prefix in the upcoming edition.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 09:12:47 am »

Has the new 23rd Ed of Charlton added anything about the Macklem-Carney FTH?

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2023, 12:12:45 pm »

Does anyone have a new Charlton so they can give some input on the stagnant Book Value of the scarce Macklem Carney $10 FTH prefix?

13 notes have been reported to the SNDB (no new ones have been added) in 10 years but the last time I asked anyone with a new catalogue, the M-C FTH was sitting lower than the M-P FTH (with 55X more notes reported).

Can anybody shed some light on this mystery? (thanks in advance!)

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2023, 12:32:57 pm »

The 33rd Edition of the Catalog has $10 M-C FTH 8,365,000 G.UNC $15 and M-P FTH 1,630,000 G.UNC $60.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2023, 02:22:18 pm »

34th ed. page 359:
BC-70a. FTH Gem Unc $90
BC-70b.  FTH Gem Unc $17.

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2023, 06:25:01 am »

How many Carney FTH notes do you have WTTW?
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2023, 10:49:09 pm »

Thanks Bob & ShareBear!

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2023, 11:19:50 pm »

Does anyone have a new Charlton so they can give some input on the stagnant Book Value of the scarce Macklem Carney $10 FTH prefix?

13 notes have been reported to the SNDB (no new ones have been added) in 10 years but the last time I asked anyone with a new catalogue, the M-C FTH was sitting lower than the M-P FTH (with 55X more notes reported).

Can anybody shed some light on this mystery? (thanks in advance!)

There are only 43 reported Rogers/Macklem FFKs reported in the database as of today when we all know that hundreds of these notes have passed through users hands and have not been entered simply because there is/was such a demand that members were getting them in such large lots they are cumbersome to enter into the database.  I suspect the same thing happened with the M-C FTH and in fact there are tons of them out there.  I have personally come across at least 20 of them in my travels, but they were in such poor condition they didn't even make it home.  Is this a possibility?

Also, the Charlton guide has not been updated to refect Lane, the discontinuation of the $1, $2, and $1000 notes, or (and although more recent) the death of QE2 and the effect on the note series' that have her effigy such as the Birds.  Is it possible we should be thankful they just switched the data from the error it reflected the last time they updated, which was the signatures vs. population error?
 

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