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« on: June 19, 2005, 04:02:03 am »

I ordered a full brick of $50 notes from my TD Canada Trust, and recieved them today. I got them home, and looked through each bundle.

I found no inserts. Is it common to not find inserts in bricks?

Numbers were AHC7222000-AHC7222999

And yes, it was a security scare getting the notes home.  ;D
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2005, 04:04:18 am »

And by the way, how many people here have ordered a $50 brick?  :o I know, I know it's $50,000.  :o Thank you Line of Credits!  ;D
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2005, 04:13:27 am »

At least you got a 2 digit radar.  Well, at least I hope so.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2005, 04:14:40 am »

It is the exception rather than the rule to find inserts in a brick. I know one poor soul who has gone through dozens of bricks in a row without finding a single insert note. Mind you, in my own experience, I have only had one or two bricks out of maybe a dozen that did not have inserts.

PS: It should be noted that overall, it is less likely to find inserts in BABN bricks than it is in CBN bricks. This is a direct consequence of BABN's practise of inserting single notes as opposed to CBN who inserts whole sheets.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2005, 04:27:25 am »

Now, just tell me your home address... and I'll make sure that the notes that you don't want gets returned to the bank safely.   That way, you don't have to lug the $$$ in your briefcase.  ;)  
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2005, 04:30:33 am »

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At least you got a 2 digit radar.  Well, at least I hope so.

Well, I did. I also got a bunch of interesting number notes with just 7's and 2's. The 2 digit radar and the interesting numbers, I might consider selling soon, keep your eyes peeled.

Unfortunately, the interest is going to be excessive. At least I could be one of the few to say I've had a $50 brick.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2005, 04:34:52 am »

This is how picking up the brick went:

I walked into the branch, told customer service I ordered the $50s, and was directed to a room. I withdrew $25,000 from my personal bank account, and $25,000 from my Line of Credit. I was subsequently charged $25 for the brick.

After 15 minutes of calls, and checks the withdrawal was approved.

Then 2 tellers (I think one was the manager) wheeled a portable safe into the vault.

After 10 minutes (the time delay), the staff emerged from the vault with the safe. I was directed into the safety deposit box inspection rooms.

After waiting another 10 minutes for the time delayed portable safe to open, I got the brick.

I put it in my briefcase, and walked out the branch.

Boy was it scary.......  :o
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2005, 05:37:43 pm »

I wonder if I can call a security company like securicor or Brinks to pick it up for deposit.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2005, 11:53:14 pm »

I am one of these folks who have searched through many bricks of notes without finding anything more interesting than a 3 or 4-digit radar... :(  :-/.  To be precise, I got 26 consecutive 5$ bricks without any insert.  It's particularly frustrating because there were from the CBN, who have normally a quite high number of inserts...

But I caught some minor errors in these bricks, which compensate a bit...

But this sequence occured just after having got a 5$ brick with nothing less than 430 inserts notes!! :o :o, HNR in HNN J-D.  I kept only a few... But I never got HNZ inserts, and I got my firsts inserts in HOG in my last brick... Hope that the tendency will resume to a more normal pace...

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2005, 01:03:01 am »

I'm looking to order a $100 brick now. Wish me luck!  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2005, 01:08:59 am »

By the time you do, I'm sure the RCMP will be doing some sort of an audit on you. :D Specifically ordering $150,000 in brand new money with no previous history of doing so, and making large cash withdrawals... raises red flags with the financial watchdogs.

This is said mostly with a grin on my face and with some sarcasm, but it could very well be real. Large cash transactions do raise flags with anti-money laundering watchdogs such as the RCMP.

At least when you're done with the notes, spread them around. Deposit them at different banks preferably in other nearby cities, or at least if you're in Toronto, halfway across T.O. Do lots of small deposits, and do them at ATMs, spread over about a week. If you bring them back to the bank you got them from, the tellers can get annoyed.

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2005, 01:15:12 am »

NOte, this traditional method of getting rid of the brick you ordered may be the worst thing you can do.  If possible, do not involve other banks.
I am going through this with my FI's, since my break in.
If you are ordering that much, they may not see it as a security risk financially, but when you involve other FI's, then it fits the profile of money laundering. If possible, thry to gradually bring them to the same branch you attained them from.

Make sure you keep a perfect paper trail, thats all.  Hope your searches go well.


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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2005, 01:16:33 am »

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At least when you're done with the notes, spread them around. Deposit them at different banks preferably in other nearby cities, or at least if you're in Toronto, halfway across T.O. Do lots of small deposits, and do them at ATMs, spread over about a week. If you bring them back to the bank you got them from, the tellers can get annoyed.


This is called Money Laundering 101.   ;D  

You could also go to Casino Niagara or Casinorama to get $500 chips and then cash out - request a cheque issued by the government of Ontario.  It's guaranteed cash and certainly, easier to launder.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2005, 01:53:52 am »

Ok, forget the $100 brick. I'm scared now.  :o

Just in case the RCMP investigates me, I kept all the original withdrawal records, and I'll just explain I'm some nutjob collector.  :P

I stuffed $3000 worth of them back into 3 seperate TD Canada Trust machines today.

But the original branch I got them from, why would it matter if I give it back to them? I paid the $25 service fee for the brick, after all.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2005, 01:56:02 am »

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This is called Money Laundering 101.   ;D  

You could also go to Casino Niagara or Casinorama to get $500 chips and then cash out - request a cheque issued by the government of Ontario.  It's guaranteed cash and certainly, easier to launder.
Hmm... I like that idea!

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2005, 01:56:09 am »

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By the time you do, I'm sure the RCMP will be doing some sort of an audit on you. :D Specifically ordering $150,000 in brand new money with no previous history of doing so, and making large cash withdrawals... raises red flags with the financial watchdogs.

I have ordered numerous $10 and $5 bricks. These weren't that hard to get rid of, since I take 100 notes to different banks, and tell them to give me large notes for them, and it works.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2005, 02:13:33 am »

I merely made an assumption, since I had not taken notice of any reports from you here on the forums. No big deal anyway. My whole point was that people can be watching. That's it really.

Good luck with your future bricks, and don't let me dissuade you from that $100 brick. It was not my intention to scare you off.

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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2005, 04:30:20 am »

I wasn't trying to scare anyone either.
Money Laundering is the washing of "Illegally obtained funds" or "dirty money".

Brick ordering and re-depositing is NOT money laundering if you are doing it with your legitimately earned money/credit.

The stuffing of ATM envelopes: Someone has to open and verify these, and often they are not the same people that are in the front lines who know what the heck us crazy collectors are doing.  It is about knowing the client, so as much as possible, deal directly with people who know exactly what the heck it is we do.  The people opening the ATM envelopes will probably have flags and notes all around the account.  The number one question I get is: "Why didn't you bring these back to where you got them from?"  but part of my deal is that I had to take them out of the branch and not redeposit them there.  The time it takes for the people to open the envelopes from the ATM deposits, and verify amounts and circumstances of the envelope is time consuming as well. BUt on the flip side, I guess the money is already in the Vault area and needs no transport.

I cannot even imagine what a $100 BRICK even looks like.  Good luck getting it, but God do I pray for your safety if you do. (I mean from people casing you out).

Well anyway, all from me.  God luck with all future brick orders, I will be back doing the same in time I hope.
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