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« on: August 07, 2006, 10:45:00 am »

[size=14]If you could see anything you wanted from the Bank of Canada's National Currency Collection...
... What would you want to see?
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This is just a theorhetical question to all you dreamers out there... What is on your mind? What would you just love to get your paws on, even for a moment? Open your minds... Even items not regularly on display... What do you want to see?

For me, I'd love to see the JPH or BJW Journey $100s, or maybe some of those elusive "Bank Legals".
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 11:41:10 am »

Definitely a circulation issue 1935 $ 500

Not this crappy thing ::)
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 01:41:09 pm »

Journey Series Specimen sets or a few BER 2003 notes  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 01:56:02 pm »

My dream wish list...

#1) Notes that aren't suppose to be out there:
ie- 1954 $50 C/H
and the super rare *V/V or *C/I $1.00 and *Z/Z $2.00 the E/R test

#2)"Good Overs" such as the $10 EET,
the scarce Bird $2 T/C AUG to AUN signatures, and the $5.00 B/T HNB

And #3) the old rare varieties:
Any 37 or 35 special numbers (low, radar, million, etc)

Nice Dominions:
-Dominion $1.00 or $2.00 in AU to UNC
-1924 Queen Mary $5.00 in AU to UNC
-1900-1902 Fours


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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 02:40:21 pm »

$2 Journey note.  Yes that is right. A $2 Journey note.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2006, 04:10:34 pm »

how about the exact highs and lows of all changeovers and replacements
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2006, 06:24:39 pm »

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$2 Journey note.  Yes that is right. A $2 Journey note.
Oh, perhaps this one? ;)
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2006, 06:46:50 pm »

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$2 Journey note.  Yes that is right. A $2 Journey note.
Oh, perhaps this one? ;)


Is there a mock up of the back too Brent ?
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2006, 08:19:09 pm »

Brent, that is awesome.  Now I have seen it. Wow!

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 10:59:56 pm »

I'm pretty sure that Brent's $2 note is his own creation in PhotoShop and not a real thing from the BoC.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2006, 11:04:44 pm »

Photoshop put to good use...

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 11:40:42 pm »

Brent, sometimes I have no idea if you are pulling my leg...  Dam that straight face of yours. Well, on msn I guess it is hard to tell.  
Now I am REALLY confused! :o

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 11:44:07 pm »

Here is the reverse image.

But please, let's get back on the topic of what you would just go nuts to see if you had the chance. I am quite curious which numismatic gems would tickle you all pink if you had the chance to see them.
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2006, 02:27:18 pm »

Anyone else have anything they'd love to see? ;)

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2006, 10:25:16 pm »

Gorgeous $2 note Brent!!! The front actually looks fairly real. I'd like to see a note numbered with 7 zeros or low numbered changeover notes. And some low numbered Journey notes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2006, 11:09:10 pm »

Well if I could see anything from the currency museum it would be the Dominion notes with special numbers, some of witch are pictured in the Charlton catalogue like the 1923 $2 solid 7 note, 1914 $2 and 1935 low #'s.

I would also like to see change over notes, mostly 1986 $2 Bonin / Theissen EGR2000000.

I'm sure I would feel over whelmed.


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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2006, 12:16:51 am »

I would like to see their Ultimate Lasting Impressions set of the Birds/Journey's $5 notes /w First Prefix #1 serial. (ENA0000001,ANU0000001 and ???0000001 for the new Journey $5) I am sure it is out there!  :D

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2006, 10:30:53 pm »

I would love to see the bank legals and a circulation 1935 $500

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2006, 09:36:32 pm »

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I would love to see the bank legals and a circulation 1935 $500


This link to a circ 35-500 was provided earlier in the thread.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2006, 02:27:01 am »

How about these $500 notes?

The Bank of Canada's National Currency Collection has the following notes, plus a handful of circulated notes:
- A00001/A,B,C,D
- A00002/A,B,C,D
- A00003/A,B,C,D
- A00004/A,B,C,D
- F00001/A,B,C,D
- F00002/A,B,C,D
- F00003/A,B,C,D
- F00004/A,B,C,D
- Several SPECIMEN notes
- Several circulated notes

I saw a binder with all the above notes in it, plus a similar collection of 1935 $1,000 notes. The photo below is one I took from a page of that binder.

sudzee, eyevet, Oli1001 and myself had the honour of a private visit with the Chief Curator of the National Currency Collection at the Bank of Canada. During this visit, we spent a great deal of our own time in the public exhibits, and nearly an entire day with the Chief Curator discussing various subjects relating to banknotes, and having the enviable opportunity to view pieces from the collection that were not on display to the public. Just a fraction of the pieces that we saw are pictured in the below replies for your drooling pleasure. (We are not responsible for broken keyboards or sticky keys).

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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2006, 02:48:09 am »

Anybody recognize this train?
Another photo taken by me from a binder containing Dominion of Canada proofs, specimens, production trials, etc.
I saw lots of other really cool stuff that I'd love to show you, but I was politely asked not to by the Chief Curator. ;)
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2006, 03:00:12 am »

Also, something interesting that we found...
Look at notes DC-33 and DC-35 in your 19th Edition Charlton guide. Look at the scans of the fronts of the notes. Look at the signatures.
No, you're not seeing things. Those signatures ARE superimposed. You ARE seeing two signatures on a single note.
Bear in mind that the notes pictured here for bank legals are proofs and specimens. In these cases, they are proofs, because they were showing what the signatures would look like on the notes.

I've attached a zoomed-in (albiet blurry) photo of an actual bank legal proof, although not the same note as was used for the Charlton guide. This one is actually a DC-34, which is pictured with only a single signature and no seal in the book.

There are several examples of doubled-up signatures on bank legals in the NCC. I believe two such notes are on display in Exhibit 8 (the vault), and the rest in binders away from public eyes.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2006, 03:13:14 am »

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I would like to see their Ultimate Lasting Impressions set of the Birds/Journey's $5 notes /w First Prefix #1 serial. (ENA0000001,ANU0000001 and ???0000001 for the new Journey $5) I am sure it is out there!  :D
ANU0000001 was a Birds $5. The Lasting Impressions sets were numbered ANU 6940000 to ANU 6999999. The first issued Journey $5s were ANV 0000001

There are no plans for any further lasting impressions sets, due to the current ones being a rather embarassing failure.

As a general rule, the National Currency Collection (NCC) keeps the first three notes of any particular issue. So, ENA0000001 to ENA0000003 would be kept, the rest issued (special case: many low ENA were kept for low-numbered sets).

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I would also like to see change over notes, mostly 1986 $2 Bonin / Theissen EGR2000000.
A more typical example would be the EGR T/C to B/T changeover at 2.0M. The NCC will keep EGR1999999, 2000000, 2000001 and 2000002. This is an interesting case, becase a member of this forum has EGR2000003 and EGR2000004. I have EGR2000005. Subsequent notes were also obtained, and many have since been sold off to others.

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how about the exact highs and lows of all changeovers and replacements
You'll be happy to know that on our visit, we spent over an hour in Exhibit 8 going through all DoC and BoC panels checking serial numbers against what is known in the Charlton guide. Surprisingly, we found many new numbers which will be posted to the Charlton Updates forum and/or the Wiki (as appropriate) over the coming day or so.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2006, 03:49:32 am »

 :o WOW!!!

That is REALLY COOL!!!

I know I can speak for everyone when I say we ALL wish we were there for that!  :)

Amazing stuff, I can only imagine all the stuff they have tucked away into binders hidden away from everyone.  :o

As a quick question, Has there been any talk of another BoC Auction anytime in the near future?  :-?

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2006, 04:02:22 am »

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:o WOW!!!

That is REALLY COOL!!!
I know! I was saying that all day long today, almost as much as sudzee was complaining about grading standards.

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As a quick question, Has there been any talk of another BoC Auction anytime in the near future?  :-?
No information available. My personal opinion would be to not expect one until the next note series is issued, and even then don't get your hopes up too high. There's nothing to sell right now.

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2006, 11:59:58 pm »

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A more typical example would be the EGR T/C to B/T changeover at 2.0M. The NCC will keep EGR1999999, 2000000, 2000001 and 2000002. This is an interesting case, becase a member of this forum has EGR2000003 and EGR2000004. I have EGR2000005. Subsequent notes were also obtained, and many have since been sold off to others.

I'm so happy that you made a point to look for EGR2000000-01-02 and end a mystery I've wondered about. I knew that EGR2000000 was in the NCC but I always thought that EGR2000001 and 2000002 were removed for an employee's personal collection but now I know that they are in the NCC.

I still have the three EBX notes that replaced the three EGR notes that were removed for the NCC.


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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2006, 12:16:28 am »

So do they keep the first second and thrid notes for all new prifixs or how dose it work I have a number 1,2,3,4,5 on a new $5s ???

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So do they keep the first second and thrid notes for all new prifixs or how dose it work I have a number 1,2,3,4,5 on a new $5s ???
The Bank of Canada retains the first, second, third and last notes printed for any series or signature changeovers. Printing year changeovers are not necessarily kept in the same manner, as this form of changeover had never previously been a tangible change to the printed notes.

Notes such as AOB0000001 are released to circulation, as it is not a changeover. All 0000000 notes are retained and/or destroyed.

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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2006, 01:20:26 am »

so my HNU 1-5 are worth??? all UNC

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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2006, 01:45:20 am »

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Make a new post about this in What's It Worth? and include more details, such as complete serial numbers, scans, etc.

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2006, 04:47:30 pm »

I'd like to see the extremely beautiful IMPERIAL BANK OF CANADA $20 1902 double-size note --- apparently only one issued example is known and that was sold at a New Netherlands Co. auction in New York City in the early 1970's (I remember receiving the catalogue at the time). It sold for a lot at the time but an amount that would be regarded as a pittance today.

A few issued Bank of Vancouver notes would be very nice too ....

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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2006, 02:08:15 pm »

That's a sweet 2 dollar note. All you have to do now is print them and put them out in circulation.  ;)
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