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Topic: 1937 $1 MISSING BACK!!!!  (Read 5121 times)
Archey80
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« on: September 11, 2006, 11:10:24 pm »

Hey all,

        So I am sure you must have seen this note on ebay if not its on there just take a look. My question is do you think it is real I mean its in really bad shape could have the back been cleaned off?? He clams not to know anything about papermoney.  


Thanks Arthur

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 11:10:39 pm »

and the front

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 11:15:23 pm »

I am not an error expert but seems a little shaky to me.   My humble opinion.

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2006, 11:27:23 pm »

I once saw a 1937 $1 that was separated so it was half as thick as a regular note and it made it look like this. There was a front and back of the same note. Each half was blank on the other side.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2006, 11:30:17 pm »

Another member sent me a link to that note earlier... I've heard tales of bleaching a note to remove the ink. Just think of some counterfeit banknotes: the more decent ones are made by bleaching US $1 notes, then printing a $100 note on top.

Also, as with many other "errors" seen, such as missing serial numbers and the like, the process of removing the serial numbers often destroys the note reducing it to a grade such as G/VG, and similar to what we see in the above images.

It is very difficult to prove the authenticity of an error of this nature. If the note was UNC, it would be easier to detect any traces of the original ink or intaglio "embossing", but with a note in this poor of condition, it is nearly impossible.

Note also the serial numbers leaching through to the back of the note. This is often a side effect of being subjected to chemicals.

Venturing out on a limb here, I would suggest that this note might also smell fairly bad.

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 11:35:53 pm »

I was with Gary T I thought it might have been taken apart into 2 parts I got a normal $5 in chage last month and the corner was comming apart so you could have just kept pulling and had to great error notes ;) ;)

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 12:05:25 am »

Try weighing the note.  
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2006, 12:16:47 am »

Not a bad idea ;D at all if the price is right when it end I might end up picking it up not sure. I will let you know thanks Arthur

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2006, 01:27:22 am »

Well I email the seller and asked if the note had the smell of bleach this is what he said "Arthur, thanks for your interest.
Just smells like an old note, old paper smell"
"PS there's a ton of people watching this!!" :-/ :-/

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2006, 10:22:25 am »

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I once saw a 1937 $1 that was separated so it was half as thick as a regular note and it made it look like this. There was a front and back of the same note. Each half was blank on the other side.

I too, have seen this. A local dealer bought one for $60.00 just as a conversation piece. It's a 1937 two and has been cut in half, inverted, and was glued ( using carnation milk?? ) back together. It's kinda neat considering how much time it took to do it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2006, 03:54:16 pm »

Here is a 1973 1 dollar note that I found on ebay. It looks more real then the 1937. The seller is asking $2570 for it (But it now).


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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 10:54:35 pm »

ya I would say fake here is a second one found on ebay as well

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 10:54:56 pm »

and front

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 11:08:11 pm »

The note that mikeysonfire posted is real, here is another one http://www.rarenotes.net/pages/prtpgs/mx5700520.html

I have seen another one as well, or it could bee the same one that is on ebay.  A very rare and quite attractive error, at least I think so anyways.  A nice one to see "in hand".

Tom

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