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Saxmanbrass
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« on: October 22, 2006, 02:46:04 am »

I recently received 4 Bricks delivered from the Bank of Canada.

I found no different prefixes within the bricks.  What I did find were HOV notes ending in 605 and 606 just prior to the notes ending in 500, and 105 and 106 notes just prior to notes ending in 1000.   Example HOV2282500 had notes HOV2282605 and HOV2282606 preceding it and note HOV 2283000 had notes HOV2283105 and HOV2283106 preceding it.  This pattern was consistent throughout the Bricks.  Any ideas?  Are these potential inserts?  I realize this is not the norm, but if you look at the Highs and Lows list you will note that no HOV replacements have been identified.

Look forward to any insight.
Cheers Saxmanbrass



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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 03:14:09 am »

Very Interesting...

Sounds like a POSSIBLE Insert... It is the correct spot for HOV....  :)

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 10:10:05 am »

The out of sequence notes are most probably 2 sheets pulled from the ream to be checked and then placed back into the top of the ream.

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 10:40:42 am »

Sudzee is right.  These notes are dubbed QCIN for Quality Control Insert Notes and don't have any premium value since these notes are fairly commonly found in bricks.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 01:10:32 pm »

Yes, these are not inserts. They are QCINs
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QCIN is the acronym for "Quality Control Inspection Note"
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The excerpt from the BOC email mentions shuffled notes as well.
http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1161322415

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 01:27:48 pm »

oops...

Sorry, Didn't notice how close the serials were....  :-[

Yes, these would be "QCIN". Sometime you will find a couple of these ALSO with a few Inserts.

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 01:43:13 pm »

Thanks everyone for your insightful comments.  A strange fact I didn't mention, these bricks bundled by the Bank of Canada, plastic sealed and white strapped were not in the typical sequential order.  In fact the HOV228 series was predominant but I also found stacks of HOV226 and HOV229 scattered throughout.  Cheers Saxmanbrass



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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2006, 03:37:13 pm »

I have never had a brick like that

Is that a single brick of $ 1000 Notes ???

Does the white strapping damage the notes at the top and bottom of the pile ???
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2006, 03:38:39 pm »

I just looked at the pile a little clsoer. I guess thats 4 bricks for $ 4,000
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2006, 07:16:37 pm »

It looks like 4000 notes ( 20K )
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2006, 07:29:39 pm »

Yes, 4000 notes.  If you look closely at the picture you will see that the Bricks did not start with conventional numbers.  It is a strange lot for sure.  I returned most to the bank yesterday and kept 100 notes for the future.  I will attempt one more batch over the coming weeks.  Cheers Saxmanbrass  
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2006, 08:41:35 pm »

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Yes, 4000 notes.  If you look closely at the picture you will see that the Bricks did not start with conventional numbers.  It is a strange lot for sure.

Hi, the CBN (Canadian Bank Note Company) has been supplying notes mixed like this since the new tens came out in May (2005) - or around then.  Since then, the $5s have now followed suit and so have the $20s. Not sure about the $50s or $100s though, but I will find out soon enough.

But there is nothing out of the ordinary with this lot of notes as far as numbering goes.  The BABN - well those are a different story so far.

Your $5s are CBN.
Good luck with your next bricks.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2006, 09:17:47 pm »

Hudson, I made a mistake :-[, thanks for the correction...

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2006, 10:04:06 pm »

lol   no prob- I know you know, mainly I pointed it out for newer people (because it was such a juicy source of confusion).
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2006, 11:50:32 pm »

Thanks again for the explanation.  This is a very helpful and friendly sight.  Cheers Saxmanbrass
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2006, 06:25:38 pm »

Yes, That is Termed a "Block". it is a Sealed BoC Pack of Bricks.

4000 Notes = $20,000

I have gotten these on a regular basis. I have also been documenting the Sticker numbers in an effort to determine if there seems to be a logical order in regards to prefixes. I have found some INTERESTING results...  ;)

Good work, Blocks are the only way to go as you KNOW no middle-man has gotten their fingers in your notes.

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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2006, 02:07:17 pm »

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the CBN (Canadian Bank Note Company) has been supplying notes mixed like this since the new tens came out in May (2005) -

If the CBN are mixing up their bricks -- does this mean the days of the insert are over?  How can a brick searcher determine if a note is an insert or not?

Random ordered bricks doesn't bode well for today's brick searchers..

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2006, 02:48:00 pm »

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the CBN (Canadian Bank Note Company) has been supplying notes mixed like this since the new tens came out in May (2005) -

If the CBN are mixing up their bricks -- does this mean the days of the insert are over?  How can a brick searcher determine if a note is an insert or not?

Random ordered bricks doesn't bode well for today's brick searchers..

I'd be currious to see what an end to inserts would do to current prices.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2006, 04:19:26 pm »


Excerpt from Gilles Pomerleau's November newsletter:

"It seems like the the Bank of Canada is getting rid of all notes printed by Canadian Bank Note: the $5 of course but the $20 printed 2006 and the rest of the $50 (FMG - H - I - J) and this has been happenning mostly since CBN was sold again to an American company.  Is it possible that CBN will not print anymore Canadian paper money ?  The prefixe(s) coming out November 15th should hold part of the answer."


If CBN stops printing Canadian paper money than the brick searchers will be a happy group.  Unlike CBN, the bricks from BABN always come in an orderly and sequential fashion.  This bodes well for the future of inserts and the premium quality of UNC notes pulled from BABN bricks.

...Arthur

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Contributor, Charlton Catalogue of Canadian Government Paper Money, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd and 29th Edition
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