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« on: January 14, 2007, 06:55:42 pm »

I have a note that is called a birthday note. The year is obvious but can the day and year be different like these numbers? 1965163 -16th day MARCH. What if the numbers were 1965316, would it be -3-March and 16th day?  TOM C
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 09:14:02 pm »

You can make it work any way you like. The number 1311962 could be either Janurary-31st-1962 or 13th-Jan-1962.

Your note would be 1965-16th-March.


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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 10:16:43 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 03:16:14 pm »

Thanks and link works.  Tom C
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 03:46:39 pm »

In order for a note to be a "Birthday Note" do all seven numbers have to be used in the date?  I would say yes.  The example used by Punky's Dad (#1311962) is either Jan 13, 1962 or Jan 31, 1962.  If you have a banknote that say has the serial number 5691967, I would think that this would NOT be a Birthday Note because only 4 of the 7 numbers are being used.  I have seen some banknotes on eBay with a similar number layout where you only have the year, yet they are saying that these are Birthday Notes.  Any opinions?
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 05:04:04 pm »

I was looking at the Charleton guide page 362 N7, he implies that Birthyear notes are those with serial numbers conatining 1900 to 2004 etc. So you would need only four digits to meet that criteria. Therefore, xx1999x, xxx1999, or 1999xxx would fit that criteria. 19xx99x is stretcting it too far.  :D
Birthdate note I would agree to be distinct from the Birthyear note where the day and month is designated by the remaining digits.
$20 for a Journey Birthyear? I don't know how they came up with that estimate. I would have expected that price for a complete Birthdate. Otherwise the buyer has the final say on what it's worth.

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 05:44:31 pm »

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In order for a note to be a "Birthday Note" do all seven numbers have to be used in the date?  I would say yes.  The example used by Punky's Dad (#1311962) is either Jan 13, 1962 or Jan 31, 1962.  If you have a banknote that say has the serial number 5691967, I would think that this would NOT be a Birthday Note because only 4 of the 7 numbers are being used.  I have seen some banknotes on eBay with a similar number layout where you only have the year, yet they are saying that these are Birthday Notes.  Any opinions?

There is no 56th of September?  56 9 1967 ?

Oh boy, thats why I struggle with time so much.   ;)

IMO
Birthday note= all 7 digits
Birthyear note = xxx1967 or something like that.

To comment on below, yes x = 0 makes sense in some cases
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 05:52:45 pm »

What if the birthday note is 0111961 for January 1 1961. Then you only need 6 numbers...
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 06:23:25 pm »

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What if the birthday note is 0111961 for January 1 1961. Then you only need 6 numbers...

Good point there Mike.
x can = 0. Last time I checked zero is still a digit/number back when I started learning the new math in High school. Maybe I'm still confused now over it. Man it's hard to find someone born in 1311.  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 07:11:59 pm »

So complicated...who came up with this birthyear/date idea in Charlton anyway?

I like Hudson's analysis
Birthday note= all 7 digits
Birthyear note = only 4 digits

For a birthyear note, the price of $20 for an UNC $5 bill seems high for something that is common.  I've turfed a lot of these notes because they were only a birthyear not the birthdate.  Silly me.  :D
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 07:43:37 pm »

There seems to be alot of confusion about "Birthyear" notes.

A birthyear note (N7) MUST have the first three digits all zero, such as "S/X 0001984". These notes DO sell for a reasonable premium and are quite hard to find. I would say in fact that the charlton values are on the low side. Anything else, call it what you like, isn't listed in the Charlton catalogue, and most likely isn't worth any premium at all.

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 08:15:35 pm »

Here is birthyear note

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 08:31:44 pm »

It works for me. See, I could still learn something afterall.

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 01:46:37 am »

Its numbers 0001900 to 0002004 that are birthyear notes. Numbers like 0001535 or 0004292 are not.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 03:14:42 pm »

That is correct Birth year notes are hard to find.  I know I have been looking for 2 years nearly for my daughters birthyear note.  I do not know of anyone who has any birthyear notes and am looking for them.  
Birthday notes example 5212005 I look at as a true birthyear note.  It has the month day and year.  There are only a few dates of Birthday notes that can be found.  For example you cannot have someone who is October 28 1946  The numbers would be 10281946...1 too many numbers.
I believe you can only go to 9302XXX.  

If you go day/month/year that is a new story
3192XXX seems to be the largest number

How ever you look at it it is a special number that can be special to someone.  Does the notes require a premium.  I think Birthyear notes require a premium,  Where the heck are they all.  there must be around 1000 in circulation.  Is the $20 a fair price.  I think they are undervalued due to only 1 of 10 Million of each prefix. It all depends on what you take as a value.  My humble opinion.


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