GREEN bands on bundles in new bricks?

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I have a new brick where all the bundles are wrapped each in a green and white band with BANK OF CANADA written on the band as well as a BOC followed by 17 digit number. Has anyone seen this before?

Was the brick sealed in plastic wrap and have a white band around all 10 bundles ?

What is the prefix for the brick and did you find any replacements ?

I will be going through it tonite or tomorrow no white band on all 10 1 large rubber band. Shrink wrapped is plastic but heavy duty not like normally are with thin plastic. and almost air tight seal
PREFIX AOM so far AOM INSERT AND AOK INSERT

Were the AOM replacements placed between the 000 and 001 notes and from the range AOM (0483000 - 0484000) ?

yes but it is AOM0480017 (just one) not in that range you gave but the AOK further in the bundle.

Mike,

Once you have had a chance to go through the brick in detail, please post the results in the Insert and
Replacements section.  It appears that you have found additional AOM single note replacements similar
to the ones found in the AOM (0.483M - 0.484M) range.  This will probably result in the expansion of that
AOM range or the creation of a new AOM SNR range.

I will contact Gilles Pomerleau once you post the details from your brick and pass on your brick information.

For additional information on similar replacement note finds in bricks of this kind see the following post:

http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/forum/index.php?topic=4816.msg27483#msg27483

...Arthur

Let me get this straight.  There were no white  plastic band keeping the 10 bundles together, , but there were individual green bands on the bundle of 100 notes. 

There was no thick  paper band that kept  the 10 bundles together?

The notes that the  SNR came from that I recieved were not bundled at all in individual bundles of 100.  Just 1000 notes with two plastic bands around the notes litterally squishing the notes.  There was no plastic.

I reciently received a brick in the heavy plastic wrapping.  The notes were also AOM but they were  in 10 bundles.  No replacements or inserts.

Cheers

polarbear

as I said each 100 notes in green wrapper with boc stamp and 17 digit code # but all 10 bundles in one rubber band and all shrinkwrapped very thick plastic

BRICKS ARE CONSECUTIVE
BRICK #1 IS GREEN BANDED BRICK #2 IS WHITE BANDED AS USUAL
HOPE THIS EXPLAINS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

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These green bands are put on notes that HAVE BEEN looked at/ tampered with.

Perhaps by a BoC person, I dont know.    BUT, the brick MIGHT not be able to be considered "virgin".

YES. I have seen these green bands before from BoC.

We need to know that this brick wasnt screwed around with by someone at a higher level, even a bank- and then had a green BoC band slipped arounf the 100.   WE DON'T KNOW.

My post is to highlight that caution needs to be excercised!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for the picture Mike

polarbear

We need to know that this brick wasnt screwed around with by someone at a higher level, even a bank- and then had a green BoC band slipped arounf the 100.   WE DON'T KNOW.

I know the bank I picked it up at said the notes came in that way and were sealed in the bag. I always accept the bag without EVER counting them and accept any loss if any, so they agree never to touch it or count it. I get it exactly the way they received it.
So the question is ,are the inserted notes I found worth keeping?
I will keep them since only $5 face (it won't break me) so I guess I just have to wait and see what else turns up.
I went through the brick that was banded in white and NO inserts.
Anyways I will start going through the green banded brick later tonite

Hey Mike.  Don't get rid of it.  This is all new to everyone.  Just wait and see.  Hey save me one of the green strappings.  Never seen them before. 

Cheers

Polarbear

Here is an example of the heavy plastic shrink wrap marked BoC.

THAT IS IT I STILL HAVE IT BUT DIDN"T THINK TO POST IT

I saw those bands on several occasions. They are used mainly by the BoC when they repackage circulated but fit notes. They vacuum pack the bag, which is thick plastic with black BoC logos, and each bundle has these green bands on them.

I concur fully with Hudson - This is evidence that the brick has been handled by someone for some reason. It has been repacked. Hang onto the AOM and AOK notes and keep a detailed breakdown of the brick. Do not assume that this is a totally fresh untouched brick.

I can say FOR SURE that the notes are definitely not circulated.

Wow....

This is VERY Interesting.....

Has anyone gotten a CBN Strapped Brick Lately??? I winder if they MIGHT have changed things up a little.... Possible Leftovers during printing that was packaged and serialized?

This is very puzzling.... 

I have yet to get a strapped or Green Bundled Brick either..... 

This is what was found in the brick. Only the first bundle had inserts.
BRICK AOM3579000-AOM3579999 FP #78 BP #58

AOM3579000
AOM0480017 (fp#55 bp#76) inserted
AOM3579001 to AOM3579063 consecutive order
AOK2075478 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579064
AOK2075479 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579065
AOM3579066 to AOM3579096 consecutive order
AOK2075480 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579097
AOM3579098 missing
AOM3579099

This is not like any other brick I have found. Any thoughts

Strange.... Those AOK's are from the middle of a Sheet range.....

 

I will be returning all of the notes (except AOM and AOK's) this a.m. Hopefully the info I posted makes some sense to somebody. I went through the entire brick 4 times and this is exactly how I found out. It was only the first bundle in that brick that contained these inserts and the other 9 bundles were as always in consecutive order. By the way, whoever asked for a green strap they will be in the mail this a.m. There are no more. And yes they were FREE.
thanks

Goes to show that no matter what, the BoC has one up on us 

Goes to show that no matter what, the BoC has one up on us 

Is it possible that there could be some naughty employees at the BoC who are playing "games" with the insert sheets in order to confuse and confound collectors ? .... just like some Mint employees in the past have played games with coins, e.g., the well-known "Diving Goose" 1967 Silver Dollars, coins struck on wrong-size or wrong-metal blanks, etc.

Just a thought ....

It sure could be....

I would not discount the disgruntled employee factor..... 

As soon as there is an element of human interaction, there is a possibility of someone messing around. 

All I am saying is that it would be wise to be wary about declaring conclusions based on the green banded bundles, or the bricks that contained them.

Suppose the BoC gets back a hefty chunk of Brick Searched $5s back somehow,-- they might just count-em then fire them right back out.
If they LOOK new to the BoC people, then they may ship them out as new - on purpose or not.

Thus the different bands, and the BoC plastic that is atypical to a regular shipment.

As always, caution should be excercised.

I understand exactly what you are saying and agree that as long as people are involved, anything can happen. All I can say is I reported what I found and beyond that, I have no idea why it is the way it is.
One thing I have always done is that every brick I have ever searched and returned has always been marked. I take each bundle and use a highlighter to mark each side, top and bottom. This way atleast I know that I will never receive or have returned to me a bill that I have already searched. So if anyone gets a bundle highlighted, I have already gone through it.

I would STRONGLY Suggest mixing up the notes as well. This is always a common courtesy to other searchers. This is a usual sure-fire way to make sure they are not given back to searchers or at least it would be discovered right away without wasting another persons time. 

I have yet to actually hear of another searcher getting someone elses notes.... It just might be an Urban Legend (As Everyone get's their Bricks ordered in from the Depot every time. There is quote a paper trail for brand new money being brought in..... TRUST ME!!!! 

I do always mix up the notes as well. At first I thought this was unfair to some person who would come into the bank and luck out by getting a few crisp consecutive notes, but the bottom line is that this cost me time and money.
I always figured that if anyone wanted to start collecting and wanted unc notes they are always welcome to join the forum and just ask me and I would glady accommodate a new collector (as which I am). Hopefully I am not wrong in my way of thinking

I doubt a brick searcher had previously gone thru this particluar brick of 1000 consecutive notes. Why would he or she have left the notes being searching for ( radars and replacements)?

This brick and way it was packaged with BoC wrappers is just a little further proof that at least 4 prefixes of 5's are being inserted, not by the printing company, but by the BoC itself. This brick is slighly different than all of the other finds in that it included only 1 AOM 0.48 replacement which is just a slight deviation from all other such finds of AOH 1.08, AOK 4.08, AOM 0.48 and AOP 7.07 to date. All other finds were consistant in that each had one random note from either side of the 500 note missing and replacements were inserted between 000 and 001. Many of the bricks also contained printer inserted replacements whether sheet or SNR.

We have been told in the past that the printers do not keep records on replacements used. I do believe, though, that the BoC will document the notes they use as replacements and eventually that info will find its's way to us. Looks to me like the BoC is pulling 2 random notes from random bricks for quality control testing.

I believe that the above 4-$5 prefix ranges, BEU 0.023 and the already confirmed FEP 0.078 are were used by the BoC as quality control replacements. FEP may have so readily been confirmed because the BoC documented the notes they themselves inserted. 

Gary

Just recieved a weird  BOC bundle of AOP
The first number is 6808675 and the last is 6808999
The last 9 out of sink notes are 6808992 - 6808999 and they are badly damaged.
Any thoughts?
 

Sounds like rejects from another searcher or a branch just putting together a bundle from what is sitting around. 

Agreed with Cam.  Out here in our neck of the woods, often a bank gets a "bricker's residual" -- the leftover notes from a new brick. Then they get jammed together to form a new bundle. 

Point is, they are not "new".

Happens all the time-- those new brick notes haveto go somewhere!!   

We have been told in the past that the printers do not keep records on replacements used. I do believe, though, that the BoC will document the notes they use as replacements and eventually that info will find its's way to us.

I am all over this

The stickers on the 4-brick bags are the key. They go upwards in number as printing moves on. Meaning, there is a recorded history of every batch of 4 bricks that gets sent out in a bag.

I will be commenting on this when I have it prepped properly.

BUT-- it will squeeze out confirmation of replacement notes.  It should, anyway.

The bundle had a sealed BOC rapper .I don't think it was  a "bricker's residual"
 or something the bank put together.