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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2007, 06:42:13 pm »

I saw those bands on several occasions. They are used mainly by the BoC when they repackage circulated but fit notes. They vacuum pack the bag, which is thick plastic with black BoC logos, and each bundle has these green bands on them.

I concur fully with Hudson - This is evidence that the brick has been handled by someone for some reason. It has been repacked. Hang onto the AOM and AOK notes and keep a detailed breakdown of the brick. Do not assume that this is a totally fresh untouched brick.

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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2007, 06:46:27 pm »

I can say FOR SURE that the notes are definitely not circulated.



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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2007, 08:39:36 pm »

Wow....

This is VERY Interesting.....

Has anyone gotten a CBN Strapped Brick Lately??? I winder if they MIGHT have changed things up a little.... Possible Leftovers during printing that was packaged and serialized?

This is very puzzling....  ???

I have yet to get a strapped or Green Bundled Brick either.....  :-\


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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2007, 09:22:45 pm »

This is what was found in the brick. Only the first bundle had inserts.
BRICK AOM3579000-AOM3579999 FP #78 BP #58

AOM3579000
AOM0480017 (fp#55 bp#76) inserted
AOM3579001 to AOM3579063 consecutive order
AOK2075478 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579064
AOK2075479 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579065
AOM3579066 to AOM3579096 consecutive order
AOK2075480 (fp#69 bp#57) replaces AOM3579097
AOM3579098 missing
AOM3579099

This is not like any other brick I have found. Any thoughts ???



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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2007, 02:26:02 am »

Strange.... Those AOK's are from the middle of a Sheet range..... ???

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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2007, 07:17:14 am »

I will be returning all of the notes (except AOM and AOK's) this a.m. Hopefully the info I posted makes some sense to somebody. I went through the entire brick 4 times and this is exactly how I found out. It was only the first bundle in that brick that contained these inserts and the other 9 bundles were as always in consecutive order. By the way, whoever asked for a green strap they will be in the mail this a.m. There are no more. And yes they were FREE.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2007, 11:40:57 am »

Goes to show that no matter what, the BoC has one up on us  ;) :P


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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2007, 08:11:14 pm »

Goes to show that no matter what, the BoC has one up on us  ;) :P

Is it possible that there could be some naughty employees at the BoC who are playing "games" with the insert sheets in order to confuse and confound collectors ? .... just like some Mint employees in the past have played games with coins, e.g., the well-known "Diving Goose" 1967 Silver Dollars, coins struck on wrong-size or wrong-metal blanks, etc.

Just a thought ....
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2007, 08:58:08 pm »

It sure could be....

I would not discount the disgruntled employee factor.....  ???


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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2007, 11:07:47 pm »

As soon as there is an element of human interaction, there is a possibility of someone messing around. 

All I am saying is that it would be wise to be wary about declaring conclusions based on the green banded bundles, or the bricks that contained them.

Suppose the BoC gets back a hefty chunk of Brick Searched $5s back somehow,-- they might just count-em then fire them right back out.
If they LOOK new to the BoC people, then they may ship them out as new - on purpose or not.

Thus the different bands, and the BoC plastic that is atypical to a regular shipment.

As always, caution should be excercised.

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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2007, 02:08:01 am »

I understand exactly what you are saying and agree that as long as people are involved, anything can happen. All I can say is I reported what I found and beyond that, I have no idea why it is the way it is.
One thing I have always done is that every brick I have ever searched and returned has always been marked. I take each bundle and use a highlighter to mark each side, top and bottom. This way atleast I know that I will never receive or have returned to me a bill that I have already searched. So if anyone gets a bundle highlighted, I have already gone through it.



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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2007, 02:36:24 am »

I would STRONGLY Suggest mixing up the notes as well. This is always a common courtesy to other searchers. This is a usual sure-fire way to make sure they are not given back to searchers or at least it would be discovered right away without wasting another persons time.  :-\

I have yet to actually hear of another searcher getting someone elses notes.... It just might be an Urban Legend (As Everyone get's their Bricks ordered in from the Depot every time. There is quote a paper trail for brand new money being brought in..... TRUST ME!!!!  :o

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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2007, 08:22:01 am »

I do always mix up the notes as well. At first I thought this was unfair to some person who would come into the bank and luck out by getting a few crisp consecutive notes, but the bottom line is that this cost me time and money.
I always figured that if anyone wanted to start collecting and wanted unc notes they are always welcome to join the forum and just ask me and I would glady accommodate a new collector (as which I am). Hopefully I am not wrong in my way of thinking ???

« Last Edit: June 08, 2007, 08:24:23 am by friedsquid »



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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2007, 09:03:50 am »

I doubt a brick searcher had previously gone thru this particluar brick of 1000 consecutive notes. Why would he or she have left the notes being searching for ( radars and replacements)?

This brick and way it was packaged with BoC wrappers is just a little further proof that at least 4 prefixes of 5's are being inserted, not by the printing company, but by the BoC itself. This brick is slighly different than all of the other finds in that it included only 1 AOM 0.48 replacement which is just a slight deviation from all other such finds of AOH 1.08, AOK 4.08, AOM 0.48 and AOP 7.07 to date. All other finds were consistant in that each had one random note from either side of the 500 note missing and replacements were inserted between 000 and 001. Many of the bricks also contained printer inserted replacements whether sheet or SNR.

We have been told in the past that the printers do not keep records on replacements used. I do believe, though, that the BoC will document the notes they use as replacements and eventually that info will find its's way to us. Looks to me like the BoC is pulling 2 random notes from random bricks for quality control testing.

I believe that the above 4-$5 prefix ranges, BEU 0.023 and the already confirmed FEP 0.078 are were used by the BoC as quality control replacements. FEP may have so readily been confirmed because the BoC documented the notes they themselves inserted. 

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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2007, 02:34:22 pm »

Just recieved a weird  BOC bundle of AOP
The first number is 6808675 and the last is 6808999
The last 9 out of sink notes are 6808992 - 6808999 and they are badly damaged.
Any thoughts?
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