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polarbear
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« on: May 22, 2008, 07:05:46 pm »

Can someone tell me what the rotators are worth?    Can we look at this as fill in the blanks.
Does a certain rotator number warrant more of a premium?  can you fill in the blanks?

example
8990668-worth........4 digits
8880888-worth........2 digits and repeater
8968968-worth.........3 digit repeater and rotator

I know the book has a price but  the real price is not realized.  The book is just a guide.



Thanks


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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 08:21:14 pm »

Polarbear may I ask, do you have a rotator 8968968?

Second, I would think that there should be different prices on rotators depending on how many digits are involved.

And my next question would be, does anyone know what the total possible rotators are for 2 digit, 3 digit and 4 digit?

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2008, 08:43:52 pm »

No  i  do  not  have  it,  I  was  just  wondering because i  think there  rhoukd  be  a premium  on  larger  digit rotatorr.  your  thoughts
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2008, 08:55:26 pm »

There is only 127 possible rotators per prefix run of 10 million notes (excluding the note #0000000). This number is splitted into  60 4-digits,  52  3-digits, 14  2-digits  and only one 1-digit  rotator (#8888888).  So the rotators are much rarer than the 2-digits radar.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2008, 09:04:08 pm »

There are:
2 x 1-digit rotators
42 x 2 digit rotators
72 x 3-digit rotators
12 x 4-digit rotators

Remember:  To count the number of digits in a rotator, use only the first four digits (like with radars).  Within the first four digits: 0, 6, 8, 9 are all considered separate digits.  For the fifth, sixth and seventh digit, there is only one corresponding numbers that will make the serial number a rotator.  For example, a '6' for the second digit corresponds to a '9' in the sixth digit.

All 1-Digit Rotators
1) 0000000
86) 8888888

All 2-Digit Rotators
2) 0008000
3) 0060900
5) 0080800
6) 0088800
7) 0090600
9) 0600090
11) 0660990
17) 0800080
18) 0808080
21) 0880880
22) 0888880
25) 0900060
31) 0990660
33) 6000009
35) 6060909
41) 6600099
43) 6660999
44) 6668999
46) 6688899
52) 6868989
54) 6888889
65) 8000008
66) 8008008
69) 8080808
70) 8088808
76) 8668998
78) 8688898
81) 8800088
82) 8808088
84) 8868988
85) 8880888
88) 8898688
94) 8988868
96) 8998668
97) 9000006
103) 9090606
118) 9888886
120) 9898686
121) 9900066
126) 9988866
127) 9990666
128) 9998666

All 3-Digit Rotators
4) 0068900
8) 0098600
10) 0608090
12) 0668990
13) 0680890
14) 0688890
15) 0690690
19) 0860980
20) 0868980
23) 0890680
24) 0898680
26) 0908060
27) 0960960
29) 0980860
30) 0988860
32) 0998660
34) 6008009
36) 6068909
37) 6080809
38) 6088809
39) 6090609
42) 6608099
45) 6680899
47) 6690699
48) 6698699
49) 6800089
50) 6808089
51) 6860989
53) 6880889
56) 6898689
57) 6900069
59) 6960969
60) 6968969
62) 6988869
63) 6990669
64) 6998669
67) 8060908
68) 8068908
71) 8090608
72) 8098608
73) 8600098
74) 8608098
75) 8660998
77) 8680898
80) 8698698
83) 8860988
87) 8890688
89) 8900068
90) 8908068
92) 8968968
93) 8980868
95) 8990668
98) 9008006
99) 9060906
101) 9080806
102) 9088806
104) 9098606
105) 9600096
107) 9660996
108) 9668996
110) 9688896
111) 9690696
112) 9698696
113) 9800086
114) 9808086
116) 9868986
117) 9880886
119) 9890686
122) 9908066
123) 9960966
124) 9968966
125) 9980866

All 4-Digit Rotators
16) 0698690
28) 0968960
40) 6098609
55) 6890689
58) 6908069
61) 6980869
79) 8690698
91) 8960968
100) 9068906
106) 9608096
109) 9680896
115) 9860986
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2008, 09:13:29 pm »

Wow, so as appealing 2 digit rotators look and are, 4 digit rotators are much rarer.

Hmmmm interesting.

Does anyone feel that a 4 digit should be worth more than a 2 digit?

And nice work on the rotator table CJ.

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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2008, 09:24:20 pm »

I think they should be, Mainly because they are probably harder to find!


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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 08:04:10 pm »

The stats I gave about the numbers of rotators according their number of digits was simply based on the number of different digit necessary to built the entire serial number.  This was was simpler to my mind.  A "6" is a "6", regardless the rank it fills in the number.  And I found that the logic was also preserved:  the rotators that are made with the most digits should be aslo the more common, hence the less expensive. 

Do you think that a 4-digit rotator as 0968960 could worth more than 8008008, simply because  there is only 12 of them, against 43 2-digits rotators (according to the last system) ?

Just ask this question:  which number is the more desirable:  8008008 (a 2-digit rotator according to both systems) or 0990660 (a 3-digits rotator for me, a 2-digits according to CJ)? 

Incidentally, I never found a rotator in my search, and I don't have any rotator in my collection....

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2008, 12:38:11 am »

and is other groups  radar and rotator

2)      0008000      Removed and destroyed by BABN only.  Available from CBN only.
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5)        0080800      2-digit radar and rotator.
6)        0088800      2-digit radar and rotator.
17)      0800080      2-digit radar and rotator.
18)      0808080      2-digit radar and rotator.
21)      0880880      2-digit radar and rotator.
22)      0888880      2-digit radar and rotator.
65)      8000008      2-digit radar and rotator.
66)      8008008      2-digit radar and rotator.
69)      8080808      2-digit radar and rotator.
70)      8088808      2-digit radar and rotator.
81)      8800088      2-digit radar and rotator.
82)      8808088      2-digit radar and rotator.
85)      8880888      2-digit radar and rotator.
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86)      8888888      Solid radar and rotator.

the worth for radar and rotator
 radar + rotator

EX: AOP8888888  IS 450.00 +95.00


the rotator much rarer  AOA 0008000 =0008000 AOA


Roberto



« Last Edit: May 24, 2008, 12:58:46 am by Roberto »
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 01:23:35 am »

the price of any item should be set by the supply and the demand of the item....even though the 4-digit rotator is less common than the 2-digit rotator (less supply)... the demand is much smaller (the 2-digit rotator is always more desirable)..hence undoubtedly in my mind...the 2-digit rotator should worth more.....
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 12:31:13 am »

Great info CJ_Sidewall & Roberto
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 07:41:11 pm »

Nobody  has  an  opinion  on values  of  rotators. 2, 3  or  4  digit?     do  you  have   a  favourite  #?
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 08:04:14 pm »

my rotator, 8998668  it has sold $ 150.00 for 3  digit

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 08:23:35 pm »

Here is  another  question.  Is 8880888  or  8980868  worth  more.  1  is radar/rotator and  other  is just  a  rotator?    cheers  Polarbear
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 09:12:33 pm »

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Is 8880888  or  8980868  worth  more.
I would have to say if 8880888 is a $100.00 note and 8980868 is a $5.00 note then the 8880888 is worth more ;D

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