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Roberto
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2008, 09:46:42 pm »

THE GOOD ROTATOR (SWIMS) IS

0990660
0960690
9990666 ....
NOT digits 8 the 8 is no SWIMS , 8 is he has a big ball and small ball
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 09:59:55 pm by Roberto »
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2008, 09:20:31 am »

Ow... :o :o

That's new... the "8" is no more eligible to be a rotator?... Since when? 

The fact that the "8" is made with a small ball and a large ball is irrelevant for me.  It's only a stylistic difference, which depends of the font you use to write the digit.  Some have a perfectly symmetric "8" (as in the 1937 and 1954 series), others have slightly assymetric "8" in the most recent series (Multicolor, Birds and Journey's).  But even slightly assymetric, an upside down "8" still looks as an "8". And there is no risk to confuse this digit with an existent letter.

 It's not the case with the "1", which can be confused with an "I" when both are written in a too plain style.  That's why the "I" is rarely used in the codes using letters (license plates, postal codes, etc.), and even in this case,  you use a font showing the "I" with disproportionnaly large serifs to make it quite different looking from an "1".  Just look at the notes which have an "I" in the serial...(ANI, EYI, EZI), to see the difference.   The "1" is almost always written with a small "notch" at left, but not always with a serif at the bottom. So when an "1" is read upside down, it's evident that the digit is upside down. 

The general idea for the rotator is when the number is read upside down, it's in principle impossible to tell that the number is upside down, since we read the very same number.


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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2008, 10:06:08 am »

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That's new... the "8" is no more eligible to be a rotator?... Since when?

Since we decided that we wanted to buy up all of the rotators with "8"'s for face value. ;D



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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2008, 01:13:58 pm »

THE GOOD ROTATOR (SWIMS) IS

0990660
0960690
9990666 ....
NOT digits 8 the 8 is no SWIMS , 8 is he has a big ball and small ball

So cutting to the chase is this....we are narrowing the definitions into the following;

SWIMS numbers do not use the 8, but the I in SWIMS does not imply the use of ones.

ROTATOR use 8's and therefore not the same as SWIMS since they are ROT-8-ERs.

And, PMG SWIMS numbers uses ones are the same as PMG ROTATORS.

 ??? Still a little lost here.

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2008, 09:55:39 pm »

quote: "NOT digits 8 the 8 is no SWIMS , 8 is he has a big ball and small ball"

I just remarked that if we take this affirmation by the word, a SWIMS is not exactly what it's stands for because a "W" upside down  is more different from a "M" than an "8" is different from an upside down "8".

This being said, I still believe that any rotators can be made only with the digits 0, 6, 8, and 9 and I don't see any good reason to exclude the "8"...
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 10:00:23 pm by copperpete »

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2008, 07:59:57 pm »

quote: "NOT digits 8 the 8 is no SWIMS , 8 is he has a big ball and small ball"


Secondly, this is only true on some series' 8s.  Many series had perfectly rotatable 8s.

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2008, 09:21:19 pm »

It's exactly what I wrote four posts earlier...

 

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