New Journey $5 Test Note (This is NOT a Joke!)

News: Welcome to the Canadian Paper Money Forum.

BWJM,it would be good if the Bank of Canada began to issue polymer notes.We've had polymer notes over here in New Zealand since 1999.This has led to the coining (pun!) of the terms 'soft plastic money' (banknotes) & 'hard plastic money' (credit cards).

You argue that it would be good if the BoC issues polymer notes but you fail to elaborate. In your opinion, why should the BoC move to polymer?

Just picked up a very mixed brick of HOW 694xxxx, 695xxxx, all with the same paper in question. The notes all came in descending order. No inserts or radars.

HOW 6940482-450  6940362-264                     FP 36 BP 48
HOW 6945481-451  6945362-263                     FP 33 BP 28
HOW 6945999-951  6945913-813                     FP 17 BP 18
HOW 6947950-914  6947812-750                     FP 45 BP 14
HOW 6948881-863                                          FP 24 BP 47
HOW 6948450-414  6948312-250                     FP 40 BP 17
HOW 6949999-952  6949914-814                     FP 27 BP 33
HOW 6950499-483  6950449-363 6950263-250 FP 47 BP 15


P.S. Also picked up a mixed brick of HOV 615xxxx which was completely normal.

I was just starting to get worried that I made a mistake by tearing up my HOH9784390, because it is the only one I have in that range. But I checked out the other ranges I have and noticed that the HOH9709699 feels like regular paper money, but my HOH979xxxx inserts(which I found 6 by the way) are on the same stretchy paper. These were found in the same HOU mixed brick 184xxxx,& 185xxxx. My other mixed brick HOU207xxxx had no inserts and rips and tears normally.

For the record the HOU 1.84, 1.85 are the same paper in question, as the HOH replacements.
HOU 207xxxx was normal. Too many beers and unfortunately didn't note all the info.

It is possible that   9709699 (9700000- 9719999) may be regular.
And that the notes 979xxxx (9780000- 9799999) may be the "in question" paper.

The ranges
9720000- 9739999
9740000- 9759999
9760000- 9779999
are still left unaccounted for - although they have been recorded as inserts.  

I had HOH 9.89 inserts that were regular paper.  (Has been reported to Gilles after his list was sent out)

AS SOON AS THE JOURNEY $5s are done, the info we have yet to find will become lost forever.  If you can order bricks, get them please (this is for anyone).

Regarding this varnish on the NEW $5s:
Maybe it is time to revisit what could have caused this on the HOU bundle: seen on a previous page of this thread.

Secondly, perhaps this is why my question regarding a specific chemial application to the notes was unanswered.


There is something important to remember.  Paper thick/thin ness is secondary.  Coating is the main issue.  

Merry Christmas! One thread we can put to bed. Here is an email response from Sylvie Dionne from the Bank of Canada: Bold added for emphasis.

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This is in response to your bank notes email inquiry.  Please find our responses right after each of your questions.

a) Did the BOC ask the CBN to run through some of the new supplied paper (for the upgraded notes) as a test run on the durability of the coating?

      We work with both printers from time to time on various tests.  However, the bank notes referred to in your message    were issued without coating on the regular bank note paper.  It is always possible that notes are exposed to chemicals once in circulation which may affect how they feel or smell.

b) Then, once the CBN got sold, and then sold again to primarily US investors, did they get axed out of their contract? (or lose the contract to produce the new notes?)

      For questions regarding ownership of CBN it would be best to contact them directly.  They can be contacted by calling (613) 722-3421.

c) The apparant coating that I found on the CBN HOU and HOZ prefixed notes, is that the same coating as on the new upgraded $5s?

      As mentioned above, the bank notes you are referring to were issued without coating on the regular bank note paper.

Thanks for your interest in Canadian bank notes.

Cordially,


Sylvie Dionne
Bank Note Communication and Compliance Team
Bank of Canada
1-888-513-8212
www.bankofcanada.ca

And with that, we can move forward. (I am sure most of us already have )