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robb4640
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« on: October 18, 2014, 05:22:04 pm »

I had got a FTJ note last week while out and wrote down the number without checking it.  Today I got another one and can verify the signature on it is M/P and not Carney.  See SNDB for scan.

[edit]The changeovers listed in the SNDB are unofficial and based solely on assumptions that could be wildly inaccurate at this point.  Changeovers will be refined as additional data comes in, or if they can be confirmed with the Bank of Canada.  --BWJM[/edit]
« Last Edit: October 18, 2014, 07:44:55 pm by BWJM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 09:11:50 am »

The $10 Macklem-Poloz changeover is in the FTH prefix. I found FTH 8886749 M/P note in Toronto today.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 07:42:58 pm »

The $10 Macklem-Poloz changeover is in the FTH prefix. I found FTH 8886749 M/P note in Toronto today.
Thanks for the update. This means that the info in the SNDB is probably incorrect as we have both the low and high currently listed as M/C signatures which is probably wrong (as the changeover went unnoticed at first). Interestingly there have not been any FTH below 8M reported yet.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 12:22:43 am »

Remember that the SNDB says that the changeovers listed are unconfirmed.  Thus, they should not be considered final or accurate.  Often times, they're just a guess.

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 03:39:38 pm »

Remember that the SNDB says that the changeovers listed are unconfirmed.  Thus, they should not be considered final or accurate.  Often times, they're just a guess.
The issue that we have though is the current two notes listed (high and low) for FTH. Were they really macklem-Carney signatures or Macklem-Poloz.  For the high note, microjamm posted it just recently... was it really a M/C signature? And as for the low number 8025096 was posted back in may well before we were aware of any changeover so quite possible this is an M/C note. My thinking is the changeover is somewhere around 8.5M.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 06:14:51 pm »

Today I picked up FTH 8261200 in M/C, issue of 2013.

So the changeover is getting narrow down more.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 07:00:45 pm »

Today I picked up FTH 8261200 in M/C, issue of 2013.

The M/C FTH $10 notes must be fairly rare, perhaps as rare as the M/C $5 notes. I believe only 2 or 3 have been found in circulation, including the one you mentioned.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 01:15:07 am »

The M/C FTH $10 notes must be fairly rare, perhaps as rare as the M/C $5 notes. I believe only 2 or 3 have been found in circulation, including the one you mentioned.

It's sure seems interesting to see only a few FTH have been out and they are all above 8.0M. Are these replacements? Were those below 8.0M ranges not printed at all?  I can recall previous situations where some ranges in certain prefixes were not printed &/or not issued.

I think it's too early to tell, it's possible more may still come out later. But if not they will a very good note for collectors.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2014, 11:15:40 am »

It's sure seems interesting to see only a few FTH have been out and they are all above 8.0M. Are these replacements? Were those below 8.0M ranges not printed at all?  I can recall previous situations where some ranges in certain prefixes were not printed &/or not issued.

I think it's too early to tell, it's possible more may still come out later. But if not they will a very good note for collectors.
This is one prefix that needs to be watched closely. Along with the $100 EKZ note.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 08:53:08 am »

OFFICIAL CHANGEOVER DETAILS

$10   CBN   Last note signed Macklem/Carney:   FTH 8364999
$10   CBN   First note signed Macklem/Poloz:   FTH 8370000

The Serial Number Database has been updated to reflect this newly confirmed information.

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 09:15:22 am »

Just curious...

How does this info become "confirmed by the BoC"? Does someone email them and they respond with this info? Do they publish it somewhere?

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 10:50:57 am »

How does this info become "confirmed by the BoC"? Does someone email them and they respond with this info? Do they publish it somewhere?

I ask the Bank, the Bank often does not provide the information, but when it does, I consider that to be confirmation and I publish it to the SNDB and the Canadian Paper Money Society Journal.

Unlike the United States Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the Bank of Canada does not publish their production information.

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 09:51:45 pm »

 
It's sure seems interesting to see only a few FTH have been out and they are all above 8.0M. Are these replacements? Were those below 8.0M ranges not printed at all?  I can recall previous situations where some ranges in certain prefixes were not printed &/or not issued.


A new addition has made the FTH M/C new low to FTH 6.87.

It's still too early to tell but may be they are not as rare. Time will tell.

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2014, 12:05:00 pm »

Are the M/P FTH notes worth keeping?  I found FTH 9015617 in FV condition.

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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2014, 12:11:17 pm »

Are the M/P FTH notes worth keeping?  I found FTH 9015617 in FV condition.

I do not think so. It is very likely all 1.6 million of them will released.
 

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