What makes BER worth more than AOR/AOM/AOP?

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I was just looking at the WIKI site and have a few questions that I would be interested in and get members opinions on.
The BER shows 31 finds (and possible bundles or brick out there)
The BEL shows 48 finds (and a possible long run?)
The FEP (unfortunately for some reason I am restricted from this..anyone else having the same problem where permission to access is restricted?)

Yet, still occasionally (as of last week), all of the above notes have recently been available for sale whether on Ebay, the forum, or privately through dealers. I have not seen any AOR, AOM, AOP inserts on Ebay, the Forum, or at any dealers tables/sites/price lists/etc.  Are these notes going to be worth more than the BER and without knowing how many are out there how do we ever know? I know if I had an opportunity to purchase a BER it would have to be selling pretty cheap, since I would not have the confidence to pay big bucks for a note that may be very overpriced.  As was mentioned in another thread, insert registries may be a good idea.  I know that many people will never contribute information and not disclose what they have or have found, but the fact is ANY information that is made available is better than no information.
Any opinions, are greatly appreciated.
I feel that as a collector, and I think most would agree; you don't mind paying the price if something is worth the money, but you hate to pay for something thinking that it is not as rare or hard to find than you were led to believe.
I have never sold any inserts before they have been confirmed by Gilles, yet I have sold some a lot cheaper simply based on what I have found assuming that because I found them, someone else would as well, yet that has not always been the case. In some instances, I have never found these inserts again....but I guess that part of the hunt.

FRIEDSQUID

Hi Members

That is a good questiion Squid.  We must understand that there may and may not be a brick of BER 2003.  We can only speculate.   

As for the notes listed above, I feel that it may be very hard to find these notes.  Yes as we look on ebay, auctions etc, we see none for sale.   I personally think these are going to show great increases in the new book and steadily increase. 

Bel  I think is going to increase in the future and it will be the slow steady one.

Don't forget AOK  That may be another future hot ticket.

Cheers

Polarbear

Don't forget AOK  That may be another future hot ticket

I hope that one is a hot ticket.

I can tell you that BEL, BER & BEP are very scarce! I have never ever seen these 3 prefix show up in my wallet. I don't think any full brick is around. Also they are all from the old 2001 $10 issue, which in general are getting harder to find as they are all being destroyed as they get returned to the banks.

Not sure about BEP.  They didn't seem to get the same attention as BEL and BER.  I know I hung on to a few and I suspect others did the same.

moneycow

Not sure about BEP.  They didn't seem to get the same attention as BEL and BER.  I know I hung on to a few and I suspect others did the same.

moneycow

Remember where you got the BEP lol.     (Actually I am not sure if it was even from me).

I sold the few BEP's I recovered to a few individuals.  Aside from my small section of notes, I am only aware of UNC notes in one other range.

I have a few BEP notes, my best one is AU-58 according to BCS. S/N is 0191333

Fenian

Lol I think that was the one.  Or very very close to it.

This post was geared more to the notes mentioned in the subject. Not concerned with BEP. Thanks
FRIEDSQUID

Woops- Sorry Fsq. My bad.
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Remember where you got the BEP lol.     (Actually I am not sure if it was even from me).

Yes, they were likely yours.  I got them from another teller at your old branch.  Sorry to bring up bad memories.   

Okay... to answer Friedsquid's question, my guess is that AOR/AOM/AOP inserts haven't been released for a long time, and the market value hasn't been established yet. BER and BEL notes have been released for a few years now, thus the market value has been established better. Ironically, BER is an example as to why these notes have not significantly increased in price. Recently, evidence of an Unc brick or bundles surfaced, leading to speculation that these notes would drop in value (I read a post from another user that he is holding off on buying a BER until the price drops), thus the drop in value in Charlton's 21st. For all you know, (though this scenario is rather unlikely) someone is hoarding (for example) 5 or 10 AOR replacements that they got from a brick.

 I think the biggest factor in determining values is that not everyone collects inserts. There are quite a lot of prefix collectors and so there are only so many BER's or BEL's but there are full runs of 10 million notes in the AOR, AOM and AOP prefixes.
 There are collectors that don't want to spend large amounts of cash because the first number is a 2 instead of 3 making the note in the 2 million range an insert.