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pbcoins
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« on: August 19, 2004, 12:55:19 am »

Just wondering why 1931 Bank of Montreal $20 notes are worth so much in the catalogue?  Are they rare?  And if so, why?  Seems like an anormality.  Are the $50 and $100 notes of the same date also rare?

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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 01:26:20 am »

Bank of Montreal $50's 1931 are scarce, the $100's very much tougher to find than the $50's, and the $20's are rarer than the $100's.  Few collectors have ever seen one, much less owned one.  For many years it was simply assumed that they were common, just because the $5's and $10's were.  By the 1980's a few collectors had caught on that the $20's just weren't around but it took a while for catalogue values to begin to reflect the true situation.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2004, 05:58:22 pm »

You will get a reasonable impression of the availability of Bank of Montreal notes in the September issue of the CPMS Newsletter - it's not out yet, but I've had a sneak peek (heh heh).  It should be available by mid-September, I'd say.  The Bank of Canada $25 1935 is not a rare note at all, it is merely very popular -deservedly - and therefore very expensive.  (Rare and expensive are sometimes quite unrelated topics when it comes to Canadian paper money.)
I'm sure there are a few - very few - collectors who have a 1931 B of M year set, excluding the $5 variety with the prefix letter S, which is still, as far as I know, unique.
Some of the Bank of Montreal notes are readily available, but there are lots of scarce and rare notes even among the 20th century issues.  Common notes would include the $5, $10 and $20 of 1914 and 1923, $5 and $10 of 1931 (the 1931 $10 is common even in AU and UNC, since a couple of bundles have survived), and all of the small size notes of 1935 and 1938.  They are seen in abundance at shows and in dealer shops.  The 1942 $5 is not as easy to find as was once supposed; neither is it rare.  The 1904 $20, all notes of the 1911 and 1912 issues, and the 1931 $20 through $100 are among the scarce notes, and some of these are very rare indeed.
You are right about the word "rare" becoming meaningless.  In my opinion, a chartered bank note could reasonably be described as rare if there are not  more than 20 surviving examples known.  The B of M 1931 $20 fits easily - very easily - into that category.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 12:11:58 am »

A correction to a comment I made above - there are  now 3 of the 1931 $5's with prefix "S".  (That's what happens when I go from memory instead of checking records.)
The $20 on eBay went very cheaply - half of catalogue value.  The owner's mixup may have been partly at fault.
Sometimes a really good deal like that happens.

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2005, 02:02:13 am »

I saw this one on ebay a while back, is this one of the 3 or a new one?

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2005, 08:22:50 am »

That note on eBay last month was the fourth B o M $5 1931 with prefix S to turn up.  Its sheet number fits within the range established by the others.  The note in question came out of Hong Kong, and the vendor did not seem to recognize what it was.  Some of the bidders obviously did though.

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