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BWJM
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2005, 01:57:35 am »

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Then what is a note numbered 8000008 called?
Two-digit radar. Also a rotator.
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What about 8000000?
Million numbered note.

I'm not sure what is so difficult about this stuff except for the nonsense eyevet is trying to confuse you with.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2005, 04:12:37 am »

While you are still at it, let me introduce you to a note : BEK 6898689.  The reason I bring this up is that if you look closer, the first 3 digits are rotating, so is the last 3 digits,  so is the middle 3 digits and so the middle 5 digits. Could we call it 5- in- one rotator or swims ? or something stranger than  Transilluminatable ?  (I know some call this a repeator.)
   By the way, Brent, could you figure out how many of such kind rotators there are in a prefix ?

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2005, 04:23:06 am »

Well, eyevet is confusing me.

I thought million numbered notes are some kind of rotator, since they read 0000008 upsde down anyways, and etc.
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2005, 04:30:38 am »

Oh that!!!!  That's a Whirligig rotator!


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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2005, 04:36:12 am »

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By the way, Brent, could you figure out how many of such kind rotators there are in a prefix ?
16. It is left as an exercise to the reader to figure out why this is correct (without listing them).

And half of those notes are two-digit radars.

I would still call them rotators. Plain old rotators. I need to find a way to keep eyevet quiet. Maybe if I give him a Journey $2, he'll forget about this thread for a while. You know that kind of person... anything shiny and their mind is fixed on it for a week.
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2005, 04:55:52 am »

Hmmm

I calculated 15  such notes per prefix:  
4 x 2 x 1 x 2 x 1 x 1 x 1 = 16 - 1 = 15 ( to account for 0000000).

I think I read in previous posts that notes with serial number 0008000 don't exist since they appear on the same sheet with 0000000 which is discarded.  If that were the case then there would only be 14 of these rotators.



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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2005, 12:23:57 pm »

The definition of a rotator is a number that reads as the same number when viewed right side up or upside down.    8000000 is not the same number as 0000008 so it is not a rotator nor is it a radar.... 8000000 is a million number note so is desireable in that regard.  An example of a rotator is 6008009.


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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2005, 10:39:38 pm »

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8888888  I'd call that a TRANSILLUMINATABLE ROTATABLE RADAR because if you shine a very bright light through the note and look at the other side it is still a solid radar, right side up and up side down.


I think it would be MUCH simpler and infinitely less confusing if one were to call this a solid racemic non-chiral rotator radar note.

A chiral image is one that CANNOT be super-imposed onto its own reflection, while a racemic image CAN be super-imposed onto its own reflection.

I'm sure my esteemed colleagues will concur it is painfully obvious that solid radar notes comprised of all 1's or all 8's can only be called solid racemic non-chiral rotator radar notes.

For short, one could say "I have an s-racemic r1" or "s-racemic r8" [permission is graciously given to Charlton to incorporate this nomenclature into future editions of their catalogues, provided that due credit is given to venga50, the solid chiral non-racemic sometimes bulimic inventor of this classification system].

Hey, wait a minute....I have an s-racemic r0 note!! (a Specimen Birds $10 bill)  ::)

I can talk gibberish with the best of you, provided that I am first mildly-to-moderately "under the influence"!  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2005, 11:19:02 pm »

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I calculated 15  such notes per prefix:  
4 x 2 x 1 x 2 x 1 x 1 x 1 = 16 - 1 = 15 ( to account for 0000000).

I think I read in previous posts that notes with serial number 0008000 don't exist since they appear on the same sheet with 0000000 which is discarded.  If that were the case then there would only be 14 of these rotators.
Yes, that is correct. Assuming 0000000 is destroyed, which it is, then there are 15. If we refer to BABN, then there are 14, since 0008000 is also removed. See my article for a note about this.

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2005, 12:25:56 pm »

It SWIMS more and more into confusion! ;D ;D ;).  I'm getting an headache just to try to understand what all the preceding posts :  SWIMS, rotator, transilluminatable, racemic...AAAAAAAArghhhhh!!!!

We could introduce numerology:   1001001 x square root of your age x the Golden Ratio divided by pi plus the height of the Great Pyramid in meters squared...
;D ;D :D ;) ;D ;) :D ::)

Let's stick to radars notes please!!!
:) :) :)

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2005, 03:46:41 pm »

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Let's stick to radars notes please!!!
Amen, Reverend!

OK, in all seriousness now, 95% of the above jibberish was all in the name of a joke.

Let's end the joking around with this post because I get the impression that a couple people are taking it seriously and are getting way too confused.

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